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Old 10-25-2014, 04:49 PM
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For the benefit of anyone considering doing some sort of oil pressure testing, I went ahead and created a thread for your reference. Hopefully, it will help someone luck out like I did (outright), or at least help them to know there is a problem before the variable valve timing system starts failing and the repair costs go up even further from JUST () the cost of replacing the gaskets.

https://www.myg37.com/forums/d-i-y-i...-pressure.html




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Old 10-26-2014, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by vqsmile
If you should face doing the repair on your own, remember that you don't have to buy the whole assemblies involved. As mentioned earlier in this thread, you can purchase just the oil galley gaskets for the inner timing cover:
Sorry if I missed this info if already mentioned in the thread:

The new gasket (13533-JK21A), is it still made of cardboard or it's metal now?
Old 10-26-2014, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by antirice
Sorry if I missed this info if already mentioned in the thread:

The new gasket (13533-JK21A), is it still made of cardboard or it's metal now?
I have not personally held one in my hand, but it has been commented on by an Infiniti service tech:

Cause for the dreaded P0011/P0021 codes that everyone is curious about - Page 2 - G35Driver

as well as someone that was competent enough to DIY the job:

Cause for the dreaded P0011/P0021 codes that everyone is curious about - Page 3 - G35Driver

SO basically, I'd say YES, they are indeed different. Can you imagine how stupid Infiniti/Nissan would be if they didn't change the composition of those gaskets?
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Old 10-26-2014, 04:08 PM
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I am at around 52k miles right now, this is starting to make me feel like driving a car with a ticking bomb.
Old 10-26-2014, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by antirice
I am at around 52k miles right now, this is starting to make me feel like driving a car with a ticking bomb.
Unfortunately the "bomb" might of went off already and you don't know it
My G had under 50K when it happened.
Old 10-30-2014, 08:11 PM
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Consumer affairs?

I don't think that any of us that are off warranty should even bother with an Infiniti Dealership. They want your money. Find an independent shop that does honest work. Stay away from the dealers if you possibly can.....In these cases I would say that an aftermarket warranty could have been a good thing. My experience is that none of us should ever drive a Luxury car without some sort of warranty unless you have a lot of income that's disposable. I applied this to my Audi TT, My cadillac CTS and RX-8.
I don't really like buying extended warranties for any item but with these very expensive repair rates on the luxury cars, it's just insurance to help with the fees.
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A little followup:

Just in case there is any confusion or any doubters left among us (and because I had never personally verified it) regarding whether or not the new oil gallery gaskets are truly different now (i.e. specifically metal reinforced VS. paper material) . . .

I bit the bullet and purchased the smaller one for a whopping $4.25 w/tax and proceeded to dissect it. The larger one is made of the same material as this one, but it cost $21 and I'm too cheap for that.




Scraped away the coating down to the solid metal substrate.



The razor would not even cut through the metal. I had to use some good utility scissors.



And if you're still not convinced, here's the old magnet test:





SO, these new gaskets will definitely not be blowing out like the old ones.
Once again, the part numbers for these are: 13533-JK21A (the larger one) and 13533-JK21B (this smaller one).
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^^ Massive props to you vqsmile. You've confirmed what many of us nervously questioned. It would not have seemed logical to use the same paper gaskets and now we know. Very nice work. The fact that they have a replacement part that is done properly should be an indication of an acknowledged poor initial engineering design choice for that part.
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Originally Posted by twin_snails
^^ Massive props to you vqsmile. You've confirmed what many of us nervously questioned. It would not have seemed logical to use the same paper gaskets and now we know. Very nice work. The fact that they have a replacement part that is done properly should be an indication of an acknowledged poor initial engineering design choice for that part.
Agreed, thanks a lot for your experiment Cliff, nice to know they're not just continuing down the same path. Nice to see you putting those "free" Harbor Freight shears to good use too, lol. Maybe you 're almost as cheap as me
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Hey, don't be hatin on my fine cutting tools.
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Old 11-17-2014, 11:30 AM
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Thanks for the info BB and VQ. I just ordered the two gaskets. I have the time and access to a shop so I will be doing it myself (very slowly).
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Jreal24, let us know how it goes. I am sure everyone would appreciate another member's experience (and pictures) whilst replacing the gaskets.
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Will do. I will keep everyone posted.
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Originally Posted by Jreal24
Thanks for the info BB and VQ. I just ordered the two gaskets. I have the time and access to a shop so I will be doing it myself (very slowly).
Very best of luck. The community would be very much indebted to you if you would do your best to document the process of a DIY repair of this extent in detail. Photos, video, keeping track of any shortcuts or mishaps, how long the entire process takes you, results, etc.
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Originally Posted by Black Betty
Very best of luck. The community would be very much indebted to you if you would do your best to document the process of a DIY repair of this extent in detail. Photos, video, keeping track of any shortcuts or mishaps, how long the entire process takes you, results, etc.
Roger I'll do my best. Never made a DIY before but hey, there's a first time for everything.


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