Making a road and track G37! Need advice!
#32
Registered User
Get a daily driver G and a dedicated track car. Problem solved.
#33
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
I take it that since this G is to be your daily driver as well as your track car the list of ponys that you have tracked so far are not your own?
I think the only car that you could ever expect the G to even come close to with mods is the Vantage, another portly GT cruiser. The other vehicles you have experience with are in another class.
Seriously, I think 1NEETO hit it on the head with keeping the G as a street car and get something else that is track dedicated, (MX-5 Miata) is probably the best tool in the box for honing track skill.
#34
I think you're mistaken on the track i ran out in NV. This was where i drove the exotic lot, the track was 1.3 miles however i cant find my numbers at the moment.
#35
In that case, get an used EVO IX MR. Great car that can do both things quite well, and has those very practical extra two doors. Oh and did I mention that the aftermarket is HUGE and parts are considerably cheaper than those for the G? I mean the G is a great car but it has a tiny trunk, small rear seats, it's heavy and luxurious which is completely unnecessary when you're building a track car.
Get a daily driver G and a dedicated track car. Problem solved.
Get a daily driver G and a dedicated track car. Problem solved.
#36
I see... don't take this the wrong way but you are basically at the point after a half dozen trips to the track that even with some natural talent you know just enough to be dangerous.
I take it that since this G is to be your daily driver as well as your track car the list of ponys that you have tracked so far are not your own?
I think the only car that you could ever expect the G to even come close to with mods is the Vantage, another portly GT cruiser. The other vehicles you have experience with are in another class.
Seriously, I think 1NEETO hit it on the head with keeping the G as a street car and get something else that is track dedicated, (MX-5 Miata) is probably the best tool in the box for honing track skill.
I take it that since this G is to be your daily driver as well as your track car the list of ponys that you have tracked so far are not your own?
I think the only car that you could ever expect the G to even come close to with mods is the Vantage, another portly GT cruiser. The other vehicles you have experience with are in another class.
Seriously, I think 1NEETO hit it on the head with keeping the G as a street car and get something else that is track dedicated, (MX-5 Miata) is probably the best tool in the box for honing track skill.
Im very grateful for everyone offering advice on DD with a G and buy a dedicated track car, however i cant see myself owning two for at least a decade.
#37
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
At VIR i was running 3:15-20 fairly consistently with my best run at 3:12, this was in the R8 and the only car i tracked there.
I think you're mistaken on the track i ran out in NV. This was where i drove the exotic lot, the track was 1.3 miles however i cant find my numbers at the moment.
I think you're mistaken on the track i ran out in NV. This was where i drove the exotic lot, the track was 1.3 miles however i cant find my numbers at the moment.
Based on the time, I'd say you should probably just get an oil cooler and some good brake pads, and get more seat time. The parts you propose buying would get you a LOT of seat time.
#38
Assuming im correct in my terminology and the chicane is the tight grouping of "low angle" turns, it would be with them.
#39
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
I'm assuming thats your time for the full course?
Some seat time should get you much much faster.
Also, get some camber arms and possibly replace all the bushings with poly, so you don't completely destroy your tires.
Now why can't more G drivers track....
#40
Registered User
iTrader: (8)
For me I really noticed it smoothed out the. 7at an added a bit of throttle response. For 100 bucks you can't go wring. IMO get a GTm oil cooler, they offer a 34 row cooler for the same price a's stillens largest one (26 plate?). Both companies use the same sebab cooler. GTm in this case is a better value. Header have more value if you have a sc because you can get the exhaust out quicker (simple explanation). It does the same in n/a cars but the gains are nowhere been that of a sc. They will give you maybe 5hp in a Na car an maybe 15 or 20 in a supercharger. As for coilovers, I say that because you will hve more room to play (pick dampening and mess with it). I wouldn't trust spring if you track regularly a's they wear they struts. Do it right and get coilovers IMO
Couple questions for ya, do you think the grounding kit makes a difference?
Who seems to make the most reliable oil cooler?
What is the reasoning behind the headers having more "value" in conjunction with a SC?
SC aside, is stillen a pretty solid company?
Can you elaborate on "Think of getting test pipes or HFCs, they will replace the most restrictive part of your exhaust. and imo, if your gonna track, get coilovers not springs." I didnt really understand that.
Thanks in advance, its always nice to have a sounding board to bounce ideas against!
Who seems to make the most reliable oil cooler?
What is the reasoning behind the headers having more "value" in conjunction with a SC?
SC aside, is stillen a pretty solid company?
Can you elaborate on "Think of getting test pipes or HFCs, they will replace the most restrictive part of your exhaust. and imo, if your gonna track, get coilovers not springs." I didnt really understand that.
Thanks in advance, its always nice to have a sounding board to bounce ideas against!
#41
Registered User
iTrader: (8)
Whoops forgot about the test pipe part (im on my iPhone) the stock cats are the most restrictive part of your exhaust. So by removing them you get way more flow. I have testpipes and experience no rasp with the stock exhaust. I can't speakfor any other though. High flow cats or testpipes are a great upgrade for sounds and a bit more power up top! I have been test pipes. I do throw a cel but when I get a tune I'm just gonna get then to delete that stupid code
#42
It's usually made artificially with cones, if its part of the course, then thats normal.
I'm assuming thats your time for the full course?
Some seat time should get you much much faster.
Also, get some camber arms and possibly replace all the bushings with poly, so you don't completely destroy your tires.
Now why can't more G drivers track....
I'm assuming thats your time for the full course?
Some seat time should get you much much faster.
Also, get some camber arms and possibly replace all the bushings with poly, so you don't completely destroy your tires.
Now why can't more G drivers track....
Thats my full track time, i was quite pleased with it. There was a 5.2 R8 there the same day and i was only a second behind him all day
Id love to track the R8 more but the tires are far too pricey and traveling adds more mileage ftl =(
Once i get the G ill be sure to look to the pros/geniuses out here for what to do. Speaking of, does anyone have a ballpark figure for a suspension overhaul including installation?
#43
For me I really noticed it smoothed out the. 7at an added a bit of throttle response. For 100 bucks you can't go wring. IMO get a GTm oil cooler, they offer a 34 row cooler for the same price a's stillens largest one (26 plate?). Both companies use the same sebab cooler. GTm in this case is a better value. Header have more value if you have a sc because you can get the exhaust out quicker (simple explanation). It does the same in n/a cars but the gains are nowhere been that of a sc. They will give you maybe 5hp in a Na car an maybe 15 or 20 in a supercharger. As for coilovers, I say that because you will hve more room to play (pick dampening and mess with it). I wouldn't trust spring if you track regularly a's they wear they struts. Do it right and get coilovers IMO
I think 60% of the posts on here have included "XYZ bigger oil cooler" so thats going to happen haha!
Thanks for the explanation on the SC+header, that makes perfect sense.
Coils it is!
#44
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
Thats my full track time, i was quite pleased with it. There was a 5.2 R8 there the same day and i was only a second behind him all day
Id love to track the R8 more but the tires are far too pricey and traveling adds more mileage ftl =(
Once i get the G ill be sure to look to the pros/geniuses out here for what to do. Speaking of, does anyone have a ballpark figure for a suspension overhaul including installation?
Id love to track the R8 more but the tires are far too pricey and traveling adds more mileage ftl =(
Once i get the G ill be sure to look to the pros/geniuses out here for what to do. Speaking of, does anyone have a ballpark figure for a suspension overhaul including installation?
#45
Im not entirely sure about which does what. At the risk of sounding lazy, would you mind to give me the simplified summary of the aforementioned? Or point me to a good database to learn for myself?