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Old 02-11-2011, 12:20 AM
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+1 on the suspension and brake mods before any hp mods. In fact you should track your car stock so you can hone the best mod: the Driver Mod. Oil cooler is a must for any car that's going to see regular track time.
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Originally Posted by Lou@Amplified
You should consider starting with your suspension mods and brakes before you do any HP mods. You will benefit from it on the track more than bolt on HP MODS.

Start with sway bars, . I like the EIBACH since they are front adjustable.
Springs or Coilovers, depending on what setup your looking for
Underbraces and strut bar - GT SPEC

Upgrade your brake pads, brake lines and fluids. Stopping is more important on the track than HP.

Most important mod for track: OIL COOLER. 34 row will do the trick
Lou is 100% correct, forget about HP mods when it comes to setting up a car for track...that stuff comes dead last. The only engine mod you should be doing is the oil cooler since our cars jump right into limp mode in stock form when pushing them hard on the track.
I would also like to caution you about the road you are about to embark. The track bug is an expensive itch to scratch once it bites you. The G probably isn't the best platform for modestly priced, good handling track car that can hold its own on the track. It's heavy, expensive to mod and by the time you get it to the point that it performs well on the track you will absolutely hate it on the street... you can't have both (short of buying a GTR).
I'm not trying to talk you out of tracking a G but I would suggest to you that at first you do the minimum amount of mods on the car and work on the most important component in the equation which is YOU and your abilities. This is the advice I give to anyone who is getting into the hobby of tracking their car. You can take the advice or leave it but I guarantee you that if you look back a year or two from now you will see the wisdom in the words
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Old 02-11-2011, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Chi-City-G
Also, Stillen is a great company that has been around for a long time with a great history of producing quality products for Zs and Gs.

With that being said, their S/C has had some issues but have been working to correct them. One of the worst experiences has to be weiboys and a lot can be learned from it so read up on what happened to him. This is one instance though so learn from it but do not make your decision soley based on it.

GTM has had a few issues along the way as well but have now corrected seemingly all of it and are producing a very consistent and powerful set up with their supercharger. As far as turbocharging being an option. I think I speak for everyone on saying: GTM, twins, and DO IT!
Ive read up that while turbos provide more power due to their thermal efficiency, they are almost always reviving and therefore have a higher chance og failure. Additional, i believe turbos tap into the cars oil systems, which ive heard is already an issue with the G37. Bear in mind that im looking for track performance, but reliability takes precedent.
Old 02-11-2011, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dal1307
I agree that if you are going FI then don't pay the money for the NA Intake as it will just be wasted. Weiboy had some issues with his Stillen SC (Carb Legal out of the box Stillen Tune) but there are others on this forum and my370z.com, inculding myself who have had a great experience from the Stillen SC kit. That being said, I also think that the GTM kit is a good option. Here is a link on myG37.com to my review of the Stillen kit with custom tune which I have had for a few weeks now (https://www.myg37.com/forums/engine-...c-install.html) Here is a link to my reivew on my370z.com this is the same review except that it was posted after completion and you won't have to wade through so many off topic posts (Review: MAC Autosport Stillen SC Install on G37s - Nissan 370Z Forum)

I am pretty much on the same track as where you are headed. Brakes and suspension are next for me this summer then a real set of tires. PM me if you want any additional information.

Dave
Thanks for the words of warning and the attached links!
Old 02-11-2011, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 1NEETO
+1 on the suspension and brake mods before any hp mods. In fact you should track your car stock so you can hone the best mod: the Driver Mod. Oil cooler is a must for any car that's going to see regular track time.
Im pretty adept on the track as is. But you are right, with a hefty luxury care the chassis is going to have to work harder than the engine in the bends.
Old 02-11-2011, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mikelr
Lou is 100% correct, forget about HP mods when it comes to setting up a car for track...that stuff comes dead last. The only engine mod you should be doing is the oil cooler since our cars jump right into limp mode in stock form when pushing them hard on the track.
I would also like to caution you about the road you are about to embark. The track bug is an expensive itch to scratch once it bites you. The G probably isn't the best platform for modestly priced, good handling track car that can hold its own on the track. It's heavy, expensive to mod and by the time you get it to the point that it performs well on the track you will absolutely hate it on the street... you can't have both (short of buying a GTR).
I'm not trying to talk you out of tracking a G but I would suggest to you that at first you do the minimum amount of mods on the car and work on the most important component in the equation which is YOU and your abilities. This is the advice I give to anyone who is getting into the hobby of tracking their car. You can take the advice or leave it but I guarantee you that if you look back a year or two from now you will see the wisdom in the words
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Old 02-11-2011, 12:47 PM
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If you want a track car just gut the interior, the rear seats and trunk is that I mean, our cars are very heavy and I would focus more looks then track use, but definitely do some suspension work first cause bolt ons don't really do much for these motors.
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Old 02-11-2011, 01:10 PM
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Definately look into GTM as well for your FI needs. They make both turbo kits and S/C kits. Contact Sam @ GTM and Im sure he can explain the oil issues with there kits. They are by far one of the top shops in the country when it comes to the VQ. Ive got a MXP exhaust for sale BTW if your interested.
Old 02-11-2011, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckeye G
Definately look into GTM as well for your FI needs. They make both turbo kits and S/C kits. Contact Sam @ GTM and Im sure he can explain the oil issues with there kits. They are by far one of the top shops in the country when it comes to the VQ. Ive got a MXP exhaust for sale BTW if your interested.
can you record the sound, rev and drive-by would be ideal
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I would get me an older 350Z track instead. They can be found for dirt cheap and it's a much better platform to begin with.
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Originally Posted by scaglietti
Im pretty adept on the track as is. But you are right, with a hefty luxury care the chassis is going to have to work harder than the engine in the bends.
What is your current track experience if I may ask?
Old 02-11-2011, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 1NEETO
I would get me an older 350Z track instead. They can be found for dirt cheap and it's a much better platform to begin with.
I know what you're saying, if this car was solely for the track id get the Z, no questions. But i want something that will be reasonable for the daily errands and such.
Old 02-11-2011, 04:10 PM
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Get an oil cooler, and then get seat time.

Once you get some seat time, you'll know what you want to improve/change on the car, and THEN start modding.

The mods now will do NOTHING to make you faster on track.

Where are you located?
Old 02-11-2011, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mikelr
What is your current track experience if I may ask?
Ive spent a couple days at the Virgina international raceway in the R8 (4.2) and a couple trips to the las vegas speedway in a F430 scuderia, carrera S (997), LP 540-4, and a V8 vantage.
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Originally Posted by Mike
Get an oil cooler, and then get seat time.

Once you get some seat time, you'll know what you want to improve/change on the car, and THEN start modding.

The mods now will do NOTHING to make you faster on track.

Where are you located?
I recently moved to the Cincinnati area towards the end of 2010.


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