Car&Driver takes on G37 track handling
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Car&Driver takes on G37 track handling
I usually take what they said with a grain of salt since the G37 is a direct competitor to the BMW 3 series and we all know how those guys are pretty "bend over backward" for BMW.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...e+page-16.html
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...e+page-16.html
Despite its well-balanced and responsive rear-drive chassis, the Infiniti G37 Sport didn’t feel terribly comfortable on the track and required plenty of cooling time between hot laps. Fingers point to its 3723-pound weight (which led to brake fade after only a few big stops), an engine that didn’t quite feel like 330 horses, and easily overheated and thus slippery tires. Pound the brakes hard, and the G37 assumes a crash is imminent and cinches up the seatbelts—as if we needed more evidence that this car was not suited to track workouts.
#2
After some bolt-ons, a reflash, and some Toyos, I have mashed the car into the ground on the track with no problems.... Maybe the seatbelt hurt his little Bit#@ a$$. He sounds like a BMW driver
#4
if it aint a BMW car&driver dont likey. like the comparo they did with the GT-R vs. 911 turbo vs. M3. you would have though the M3 would loose but they picked it for some lame a$$ reason such as. Seriously?
#5
i bet the person who writes this **** his whole family owns a ****ing fleet of BMW's. this guy should be beaten over the head with the G37 wheels so he learns a lesson.. **** me off for no reason. well maybe i love my car so much.
#7
I'm not as passionate as you all as I don't own a G37... But really man what a stupid article.
I'm wondering what percentage of C&D readers have actually "tracked" a car. Seriously - maybe it is a high number, I don't know... But even if one has, it is highly unlikely they do it regularly where it would really factor into their buying decision...
I'm wondering what percentage of C&D readers have actually "tracked" a car. Seriously - maybe it is a high number, I don't know... But even if one has, it is highly unlikely they do it regularly where it would really factor into their buying decision...
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#8
considering the company the G37 was in that track day (viper, GTR, M3, etc.), it's not such a bad review...i'd think my wife was kinda bland too after hangin out with victoria secret models...
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Sadly, it's partially true. After 2 track days in my G37, they have major problems with some sort of heat issue. After as little as 10min of hard driving, the car will go into some sort of limp mode and start pulling power/reducing redline. Letting the car cool off for a while will restore performance.
The stock RE050's do overheat on the track and get quite a bit less grippy, but they're still not horrible.
I haven't had any problems with brake fade, though I haven't reached the kind of heavy braking they do.
For a car sold with advertising material about track tests, it really needs another oil cooler(presumably). It's really dissapointing having to manage how hard you rev the car in order to be able to keep driving.
The stock RE050's do overheat on the track and get quite a bit less grippy, but they're still not horrible.
I haven't had any problems with brake fade, though I haven't reached the kind of heavy braking they do.
For a car sold with advertising material about track tests, it really needs another oil cooler(presumably). It's really dissapointing having to manage how hard you rev the car in order to be able to keep driving.
#12
Let me find the chart for this comparison. The G37S actually had a lower time than the 08 STI. So comments aside, the numbers spoke well for the G as a track car. And having owned an STI, I noticed right away that the G's chassis is alot stiffer.
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yah i also saw the 08 STI is slower then the G37s. but then again their numbers show the G37s to be one second slower than a lotus elise sc? after tracking my cars i have some complaints about their comments and some agreements. for one, they complained about clinching seatbelts which means their car came equipped with the tech package. i dont have that. most of the people here i doubt have that. thus i dont have that problem. the stock re050s are indeed not that great of a tire. unfortunately in my search for better tires, there arent many choices due to the 19" rims. i might get T1R or some dunlops in wider rear sizes. we have 245 on a 9" wide rim. definitely has room for 265 or more. for heating issues i think this is up in the air. i never had heat issues. none of the mags have said they had any issues. of course, i would never goto a track day knowing there will be triple degree temps. it makes it hard on the brakes, hard on the tires, hard on the engine, and hard on you in any car. as for the brakes i also have not experienced fading, but to be honest i never jammed it to the floor (i hate activating abs).
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I have tracked my G37S several times, and I don't understand where they are coming from either. The car has been great! I have not been passed yet and have passed, Corvettes, 911s, STI, 335i, dedicated track Mustang... You have to consider the driver's skill in those cars, or lack thereof, but it may give you an idea of how fast the G37 is, and how well it handles on the track. I NEVER needed more brakes, even on a hot day. And that would include braking from about 120 to 50mph each lap, besides all the other turns. It is superbly balanced. It could use use a stiffer suspension for track days to reduce roll, but that would make it unbearable as a daily driver for me. As Thrillhouse has indicated, Infiniti has to fix the limp home mode that kicks in. It has happened to me each day I was on the track, with it happening more frequently on hotter days. I'd fix it myself if someone could tell me what is triggering it. Since C&D didn't indicate this, they must not have spent alot of time in the car. I didn't read their article - because their website SUCKS! (They should do a review of their website and they'll find it in last place compared to others in the same category!) How many laps did they do in the G37?
#15
With no intended disrespect towards the OP, I agree 100%. The G37 is a GT coupe. It's set-up for long distance, high-speed drives. It's way too heavy and not set-up out-of-the-box for the track.
Sure, you can mod it to do just about anything you want, but the same can be said for almost any car.
Why did I purchase a G37 over a BMW 335? Simple - VALUE.
The car costs at least $10K less, is much cheaper to maintain, and will be much more reliable over the 100k miles I will drive it. I've got friends with BMW's, and can't believe the headaches they go through. Electrical gremlins seem to be a common problem. MY G37 hasn't had one problem in the 12 months and 11k miles driven so far.
Everyone bought their cars for different reasons, and I respect that. I needed something comfortable, stylish, and reliable to commute in for the next five to six years. I think I have that with the G.
A buddy and me took a ride down to the Kennedy Space Center this past May to watch a Shuttle launch. What an awesome car for a road trip! It's a shame I can't fit the wife's luggage in the car when we go on vacation, but that's why she drives an MDX.
I've been reading Car and Driver since the early-70's, so I don't get worked-up anymore over their alliegence to BMW's. As a car that you drive for a few days and don't have to pay for any maintenance, it's an awesome car. I don't think anyone engineers better cars than the Germans.
However, they do not have the reliability I need for my daily commute. I'm sure there are many guys who will say that there BMW's are bullet proof. I'm happy for them. My observation of three friends' experience with BMW's begs to differ.
I'll keep my G.