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Old 01-10-2008, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by G-WIZ KID
Someone was telling me the reason why I fishtailed was b/c i don't hav VLSD. Can someone breifly explian to me the fuctions of that is? Thank You
In short, VLSD transfers power from side to side. VDC reduces power through braking and reducing engine output.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by PainProphet
... I can't remember the exact model, but I switched to the BFGoodwrench KDW's that you see on a lot of sports cars, made a world of difference.

I've been using the KD Dub Yahs on my FX35 for 3 yrs, now, and will be buying them again. They're a great tire.

They're still holding up well for having about 100 autocross runs on them and at least 300 track miles.

Probably about 20K on them, now.
I'm hoping to get one more summer out of them which will mean at least one track session and 20-30 autocross runs

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Old 01-10-2008, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Garnet Canuck
In short, VLSD transfers power from side to side. VDC reduces power through braking and reducing engine output.
It also allows the wheels to spin at different speeds hence the "slipping". When you're taking a turn the inside wheel is turning a lot less than the outside wheel. Otherwise the diff is locked in a straight line while both wheels are spinning at the same rate.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/differential4.htm
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Old 01-10-2008, 05:59 PM
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VLSD prevents one rear tire from spinning significantly more than the other. This has various effects on handling through corners and also straight line launches.

A car without any type of limited slip differential will burn up one rear tire. This makes the car hard to control in a corner and also prevents you from putting full power to the ground in a straight line. That said, given what you've described was your situation, VLSD would not have saved you.

I won't write an essay on limited slip differentials here, as there are plenty of good resources on the internet. Google it.
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Old 01-10-2008, 07:32 PM
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What the heck are you doing making a turn at 45 MPH in the first place???
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:17 PM
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At least we know the car doesn't have under-steer. =P
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:28 PM
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Actually I think the G does under steer more that other sport coupes I have driven unless you compensate with some juice. Its strange the back would kick out without you stomping on the accelerator.
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by COMPNETBOBBY
Actually I think the G does under steer more that other sport coupes I have driven unless you compensate with some juice. Its strange the back would kick out without you stomping on the accelerator.
Lol. Thats what I was thinking. and mentioning
tried to control the car swerving back and forth finally jumping over the center divider
sounds as though it fish-tailed and went towards the center of the road... but fish-tailing at 45mph? Gas had to be pressed to get the rear sliding a bit...
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by COMPNETBOBBY
Actually I think the G does under steer more that other sport coupes I have driven unless you compensate with some juice. Its strange the back would kick out without you stomping on the accelerator.
ya the 37 is very understeer prone. it sucks
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Old 01-10-2008, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by UNV-IT46
ya the 37 is very understeer prone. it sucks
really??? What happened to the 53% front and 47% rear weight distribution?
It couldn't be that bad I hope... My economy car right now is like 75 and 25 rear and its "eh" at higher/tight turns...
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Old 01-10-2008, 10:47 PM
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The car behaves differently on throttle vs off throttle. Even just "maintainence throttle" will promote neutral handling. Off-throttle or deceleration-inducing throttle applications will make the car understeer when pushed.

This is mostly down to weight transfer but also has to do with traction budget at the rear.
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:39 AM
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Weight distribution is important, but understand that understeer can be dialed in by your staggered tire setup, spring rates and dampening, and sway bar stiffness, degrees of camber, etc...too many ways to dial in understeer beyond a 53/47 weight distribution.

I think you can do your self a favor by taking a 1-day performance course. I drive a 430 hp, 390 ft/lb G35 Coupe with most of the understeer dialed out every day with VDC off. Then again, I have 5 years of seat time. The car has great balance and limits, but any car will spank you if you don't respect it.
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Old 01-11-2008, 04:27 AM
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I went into the turn to see wat the car can do. No, I did not give it gas while going 45. I just wanted to see how good of grip the g37 has. Wasn't trying to drift nor mess around.
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:02 AM
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Sounds like bad driving to me. I drive with my VCD off all the time and love kicking out the *** end going fast around corners.
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by siug37
Sounds like bad driving to me. I drive with my VCD off all the time and love kicking out the *** end going fast around corners.
Yep, bad driving it is.
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