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#16
#17
If it makes you feel any better, there are over 1300 people in the last 2 month that have had their car towed, their drivers license suspended and face a $2,000 to 10,000 fine for driving 50KM/hr (31M/hr) above the speed limit.
Imagine being left on the highway with your kids, because you were speeding. This is what is happening in Ontario.
Imagine being left on the highway with your kids, because you were speeding. This is what is happening in Ontario.
#22
off topic, ha ha, sure are some stupid volunteers around here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BJ & Max to be specific, lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh, can't forget DGC!!!
BJ & Max to be specific, lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh, can't forget DGC!!!
Last edited by G37RacerX; 08-11-2008 at 07:29 PM. Reason: deleted posts by IDIOTS trying to save face!!!
#26
If it makes you feel any better, there are over 1300 people in the last 2 month that have had their car towed, their drivers license suspended and face a $2,000 to 10,000 fine for driving 50KM/hr (31M/hr) above the speed limit.
Imagine being left on the highway with your kids, because you were speeding. This is what is happening in Ontario.
Imagine being left on the highway with your kids, because you were speeding. This is what is happening in Ontario.
That's not even speeding, 10 over whatever, 20 over fine, 30 over that's pushing it, but 50 over! That's gross negligence. I'm no angel either, everyone's probably sped at one time or another, but if I ever go 50km/h over you better believe I'm doing it on purpose and won't/can't cry about the consequences.
Last edited by Orbie; 11-08-2007 at 11:19 AM.
#27
Bleh, speed is relative. How is it that a 5,000lb Dodge Ram truck pulling a 6,000lb trailer is allowed to travel at the same 65mph speed that my 3700lb car is?
Care to compare stopping distances, ability to change direction, general agility? How about total mass in the event of a crash?
I'm pretty sure my car can stop much faster going 80mph than this trailer-pulling pick-up truck can from 65mph, AND, if both of us aren't even paying attention, I'm pretty sure his 10,000lbs+ of steel at 65mph is going to kill far more people than my 3,7000lbs at 80mph.
So... yeah, I think "dangerous" driving is far more complicated than some poorly chosen number on the side of the road.... I'd sooner take keys from the truck for driving at the limit when it is clearly not safe to do so than some guy in a G35 sedan going 31MPH over on an empty road... laws need to take circumstances and other factors into consideration.
Care to compare stopping distances, ability to change direction, general agility? How about total mass in the event of a crash?
I'm pretty sure my car can stop much faster going 80mph than this trailer-pulling pick-up truck can from 65mph, AND, if both of us aren't even paying attention, I'm pretty sure his 10,000lbs+ of steel at 65mph is going to kill far more people than my 3,7000lbs at 80mph.
So... yeah, I think "dangerous" driving is far more complicated than some poorly chosen number on the side of the road.... I'd sooner take keys from the truck for driving at the limit when it is clearly not safe to do so than some guy in a G35 sedan going 31MPH over on an empty road... laws need to take circumstances and other factors into consideration.
#29
Well you don't need to change the laws so much if the officers are trained to use proper discretion in assessing which vehicles are being operated dangerously and which are not.
Blanket action like being described in this post (If you are going X over the limit, we are taking your car), especially if hinging upon non-ridiculous violation levels (relative to the performance envelope of today's vehicles) such as 31mph over the limit (on a three lane, 55mph freeway, that's 86mph -- anyone who's driven a G35 or G37 knows 86mph is WELL within the stable limits of the car on a clear road or even light traffic), is I N S A N E. But I guess that's Canada for you. :P
Blanket action like being described in this post (If you are going X over the limit, we are taking your car), especially if hinging upon non-ridiculous violation levels (relative to the performance envelope of today's vehicles) such as 31mph over the limit (on a three lane, 55mph freeway, that's 86mph -- anyone who's driven a G35 or G37 knows 86mph is WELL within the stable limits of the car on a clear road or even light traffic), is I N S A N E. But I guess that's Canada for you. :P
Last edited by mal_TX; 11-08-2007 at 04:34 PM.
#30
On a typical highway in the Great Toronto Area, the average driver drives at 120K. It really isn't that hard to go another 30Km over the limit. Also there are many places where the speed reduces from 100km to 70km pretty quickly. If your not paying attention and are cruising at 120Km you can loose your car.
The law was to prevent people from racing. The reality is that most people drive above the speed limit and this create a hard cap with no tolerance.
I have no problem with tough laws, but I do believe there needs to be room for discretion. Having your licensing suspended for over 1yr can severely inhibit people from sustaining their jobs. Clearly the amount of people their catching indicates that speeding is the exception not the norm.
If it really reduces the number of accidence great, but a somehow doubt this by itself will accomplish that. Anyways, my point was to say there is worse that can happen!
The law was to prevent people from racing. The reality is that most people drive above the speed limit and this create a hard cap with no tolerance.
I have no problem with tough laws, but I do believe there needs to be room for discretion. Having your licensing suspended for over 1yr can severely inhibit people from sustaining their jobs. Clearly the amount of people their catching indicates that speeding is the exception not the norm.
If it really reduces the number of accidence great, but a somehow doubt this by itself will accomplish that. Anyways, my point was to say there is worse that can happen!