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Old 11-02-2007, 11:56 AM
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but the acceleration "in-gear" is quicker with the 6mt.
the gears are better, and there is less power loss thru the tranny.
however, most manual drivers don't shift perfect (or anywhere close)
so like said..... not that big of a deal.
Old 11-02-2007, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by msb3079
but the acceleration "in-gear" is quicker with the 6mt.

not in a DSG or SMG...
Old 11-02-2007, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by cvt
not in a DSG or SMG...
since when was that offered on a G37?
Old 11-02-2007, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by shumby
here we go again
At and MT threads should be banned..... it's always the same old pissing match.
Old 11-02-2007, 03:02 PM
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OMG, please tell me we aren't having this discussion again. Neither one is better than the other!!
Old 11-02-2007, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by kg37
At and MT threads should be banned..... it's always the same old pissing match.
+1.
Old 11-02-2007, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by kg37
At and MT threads should be banned..... it's always the same old pissing match.
+1

It's normally because folks are misinformed/ underinformed ... In the past it came from AT drivers most of the time who were not aware of the differences between the two. Here recently it often this comes from those who soley subscribe to manuals who have not researched the improvements in the AT.
I would think that such performance focused individuals would do a little research first or be better informed regarding both versions of the vehicle- or at least would have kept up with the performance and dyno results posted on this forum and on the internet. It's not that hard to do a search.
One can argue the fun factor but that is subjective. Dynos and performance results though are what they are- both cars evenly matched.
Old 11-02-2007, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by KAHBOOM
+1

It's normally because folks are misinformed/ underinformed ... In the past it came from AT drivers most of the time who were not aware of the differences between the two. Here recently it often this comes from those who soley subscribe to manuals who have not researched the improvements in the AT.
I would think that such performance focused individuals would do a little research first or be better informed regarding both versions of the vehicle- or at least would have kept up with the performance and dyno results posted on this forum and on the internet. It's not that hard to do a search.
One can argue the fun factor but that is subjective. Dynos and performance results though are what they are- both cars evenly matched.
I think people are just misreading the information more then anything. There it's not being questioned which version makes more power or which is faster in times. What is being said is that the at inifinti transmission does not shift faster then a manual. Its just a fact. If you can show me one shred of evidence that any True AUTO box shifts faster then a manual then there wont be any arguments from me. But since that is not the case I will stick to the facts i know which is a manual trans shifts faster then an auto. again i am only saying a true auto box. A sequential system is faster then a manual...
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The BMW Auto in the 335 is not sequential and shifts at 100ms. (1/10th/sec)
I believe the Infiniti from the earlier press release is 150ms.
If you can shift a manual that fast, everytime, you're damn good.
IMO, the manual in the G37 is all wrong. Engages too high, shifter is too small with a rubbery feel. This car seems much more natural with the Auto, although I would have preferred a 6sp, too. Mostly because I will take this car to the track occcasionlly and like the closer ratios. Not a deal breaker though.
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AT vs MT?? Blah, blah, blah, blah....ad nauseum-
Old 11-02-2007, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Tarkus
The BMW Auto in the 335 is not sequential and shifts at 100ms. (1/10th/sec)
I believe the Infiniti from the earlier press release is 150ms.
If you can shift a manual that fast, everytime, you're damn good.
IMO, the manual in the G37 is all wrong. Engages too high, shifter is too small with a rubbery feel. This car seems much more natural with the Auto, although I would have preferred a 6sp, too. Mostly because I will take this car to the track occcasionlly and like the closer ratios. Not a deal breaker though.
I guess car and driver feels the same...

http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtest...automatic.html
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Originally Posted by msb3079
since when was that offered on a G37?
none. i thought we were speaking in generalities and not car-specific.

then you are right
Old 11-03-2007, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Tarkus
The BMW Auto in the 335 is not sequential and shifts at 100ms. (1/10th/sec)
I believe the Infiniti from the earlier press release is 150ms.
If you can shift a manual that fast, everytime, you're damn good.
IMO, the manual in the G37 is all wrong. Engages too high, shifter is too small with a rubbery feel. This car seems much more natural with the Auto, although I would have preferred a 6sp, too. Mostly because I will take this car to the track occcasionlly and like the closer ratios. Not a deal breaker though.

I agree that the clutch is poor in the 37, I was incredibly disappointed to see that Infiniti had still not learned their lesson from the clutches in the previous G. It still catches waaay high and now it is super-light feeling too, which is a tough combination.
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