Not a good start for the coupe?
#31
This thread will be more insightful in the coming months, and to see if Infiniti reports the G37's separate from the coupe, as I am sure they will. A bigger question is, and will be interesting to watch it unfold, will the numbers be anywhere as good as the 2003 launch?
As has been discussed on a few other threads, this is a tougher market, economy reeling a bit, higher gas prices (relative) and the competitiion has really raised the bar. When the G35 hit the market, it had a significant performance advantage as relates to acceleration over other coupes in its class and a few above its class. The tables have turned, and especially for the TT 335i engine, the G37 is slightly behind in the all important HP/Torque per weight of the vehicle, and as such performance has suffered relative to at least the Bimmer. No question the new G37 is very refined, possesses great handling/ride composure and excellent steering vs the 'pack', it's just the weight increase and low torque numbers from the 3.7 VVEL relative to the Bimmer have kept the speed addicts wanting more.
As has been discussed on a few other threads, this is a tougher market, economy reeling a bit, higher gas prices (relative) and the competitiion has really raised the bar. When the G35 hit the market, it had a significant performance advantage as relates to acceleration over other coupes in its class and a few above its class. The tables have turned, and especially for the TT 335i engine, the G37 is slightly behind in the all important HP/Torque per weight of the vehicle, and as such performance has suffered relative to at least the Bimmer. No question the new G37 is very refined, possesses great handling/ride composure and excellent steering vs the 'pack', it's just the weight increase and low torque numbers from the 3.7 VVEL relative to the Bimmer have kept the speed addicts wanting more.
#32
^^ The speed addicts will always want more and at times I do as well, but this new G is not a grampa car. If you haven't driven it hard, you need to. On a short road race course this thing will be as competitive as the all mighty TT335i. On a longer track, the TT will prolly take it down the straight. The two cars are very very close and for my money this G has all of the luxury features I could ask for and fits my 6'-3" frame. 2003 was a different year than 2007 and must be accounted for in these statistical sales analysis.
#33
This thread is actually very usefull. It will give an indication of how much dealing power potential new owner will have when it will come time to buy.
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I say to each their own. People have different priorities. My current car is more then 13 years old and I still get people chasing after me and giving me thumb up everytime I drive. So waiting a few months before spending my hard earned cash to get a better discount, for a car I will keep another 10 plus years, is certainly not silly IMO.
EDIT. BTW, this is a great time to buy a new car, all luxury manufacturers have release their new entry level cars. You never know, while waiting, one could be steered towards the competition
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EDIT. BTW, this is a great time to buy a new car, all luxury manufacturers have release their new entry level cars. You never know, while waiting, one could be steered towards the competition
Last edited by Techuinang; 09-19-2007 at 11:50 AM.
#34
This thread is actually very usefull. It will give an indication of how much dealing power potential new owner will have when it will come time to buy.
As for this comment
I say to each their own. People have different priorities. My current car is more then 13 years old and I still get people chasing after me and giving me thumb up everytime I drive. So waiting a few months before spending my hard earned cash to get a better discount, for a car I will keep another 10 plus years, is certainly not silly IMO.
As for this comment
I say to each their own. People have different priorities. My current car is more then 13 years old and I still get people chasing after me and giving me thumb up everytime I drive. So waiting a few months before spending my hard earned cash to get a better discount, for a car I will keep another 10 plus years, is certainly not silly IMO.
#35
It is my daily driver but I only drive in the city to and from work and of course during the weekend I cruise around for the fun of driving. I should also add I drive all year round (Nothing beats 4wd in snow). The car have less then 110K miles on it right now.
EDIT. I have no idea have many miles I drive a year as I don't pay attention to it.
EDIT. I have no idea have many miles I drive a year as I don't pay attention to it.
Last edited by Techuinang; 09-19-2007 at 11:59 AM.
#36
^^ The speed addicts will always want more and at times I do as well, but this new G is not a grampa car. If you haven't driven it hard, you need to. On a short road race course this thing will be as competitive as the all mighty TT335i. On a longer track, the TT will prolly take it down the straight. The two cars are very very close and for my money this G has all of the luxury features I could ask for and fits my 6'-3" frame. 2003 was a different year than 2007 and must be accounted for in these statistical sales analysis.
Good point, as both G37s 6 speeds I tested had about 200 miles on them, and I did not 'drive it like I stole it.' This is a key differential in my mind coming from the 'muscle car' era, is having gobs of torque down low (like a big V8) which provides the 'feeling' of a very quick car vs the higher revving (needed to get to the sweet spot) G37. No doubt BMW captured a big part of this segment of the market when it release the TT with over 300 ft-lb of torque at 1400 RPM's! I need to convince my dealer to let me test drive one alone and 'drive it like I hate it' to see its true colors!
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#39
This thread is actually very usefull. It will give an indication of how much dealing power potential new owner will have when it will come time to buy.
As for this comment
I say to each their own. People have different priorities. My current car is more then 13 years old and I still get people chasing after me and giving me thumb up everytime I drive. So waiting a few months before spending my hard earned cash to get a better discount, for a car I will keep another 10 plus years, is certainly not silly IMO.
EDIT. BTW, this is a great time to buy a new car, all luxury manufacturers have release their new entry level cars. You never know, while waiting, one could be steered towards the competition
As for this comment
I say to each their own. People have different priorities. My current car is more then 13 years old and I still get people chasing after me and giving me thumb up everytime I drive. So waiting a few months before spending my hard earned cash to get a better discount, for a car I will keep another 10 plus years, is certainly not silly IMO.
EDIT. BTW, this is a great time to buy a new car, all luxury manufacturers have release their new entry level cars. You never know, while waiting, one could be steered towards the competition
#40
Not to belabor the point, and certainly not to get the last word in here, but I am driving the same car right now as someone who may purchase it at a discount in May. As soon as they walk out the door with there 2008 G37 it drops in value almost equivalent to the one I have been enjoying since August of '07. Remember that the reason they get discounted is not sales related as much as it is they depreciate like everything else, especially when the '09 is around the corner. You are right regarding the value in keeping the car for several years. If you pay cash and avoid financing keeping the car for a long time pays off handsomely in the long run. FWIW I paid cash.
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