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6MT
140
53.64%
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6MT or 5AT
09-06-2007 | 11:23 PM
#77
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09-07-2007 | 12:11 AM
#78
Up higher on this page, I added the 6MT road test from edmunds. As you can see it's pretty much a wash in acceleration
0 - 30 (sec): 2
0 - 45 (sec): 3.5
0 - 60 (sec): 5.4
0 - 75 (sec): 7.9
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 13.8 @ 102.0
0 - 30 (sec): 2
0 - 45 (sec): 3.5
0 - 60 (sec): 5.4
0 - 75 (sec): 7.9
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 13.8 @ 102.0
Last edited by KAHBOOM; 09-07-2007 at 12:22 AM.
09-07-2007 | 12:37 AM
#79
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Just found this for the 08 Coupe http://consumerguideauto.howstuffwor...infiniti-g.htm
09-07-2007 | 10:14 AM
#80
According to my experience replacing clutches in my 01 Z28 Camaro, driving under intense conditions (i.e. racing, weaving), and we have had to replace the clutch at 50,000 and 90,000 miles. This is prob the worst case scenario for any driver. For each one it was costing us around $500 installed for a Z06 clutch. Basing off this and the G35 clutch's cost, a G37 stock clutch will run close to $500 with probably $300-400 in labor. Hope this helps.
09-09-2007 | 10:50 PM
#82
the 6mt is a better value imo. I prefer m/t in sport compact cars like g/z/rsx. I prefer autos for luxury sedans. Infinit'e m/t's are sold with more performance in mine than a/t. That's why the m/t's come standard with sports package and still get hand brakes but the auto doesn't! Hand brake is crucial IMO in time attack/drifting, how do you at's manage wout it in those "racing" conditions? Not trying to bash, honest, the fact that the g37 autos get same hp as mt's is a big step up in performance, but the tranny selection has different consequences in racing conditions, and on the street as it works both ways. Until smg, I'm sticking to m/t. As another post said; it really comes down to pesonal preference.
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09-09-2007 | 10:59 PM
#83
the 6mt is a better value imo. I prefer m/t in sport compact cars like g/z/rsx. I prefer autos for luxury sedans. Infinit'e m/t's are sold with more performance in mine than a/t. That's why the m/t's come standard with sports package and still get hand brakes but the auto doesn't! Hand brake is crucial IMO in time attack/drifting, how do you at's manage wout it in those "racing" conditions? Not trying to bash, honest, the fact that the g37 autos get same hp as mt's is a big step up in performance, but the tranny selection has different consequences in racing conditions, and on the street as it works both ways. Until smg, I'm sticking to m/t. As another post said; it really comes down to pesonal preference.
Don't race r drift so don't care just looking for a fun car that goes has a good proven block and looks cool. Why is everything about racing. this is a lux sport not a race car.
09-09-2007 | 11:09 PM
#84
Like I said, it comes down to personal preference. If u r more into luxury and daily driver than the a/t might be the better choice. If u like to track or feel more connected to the car and road than the m/t is likely the better choice. Regardless of tranny choice, its a great car.
Obviously if u look a my sig, my mods should tell u I'm more with the m/t experience; hence I'm biased. My point was only that while engine numbers might be the same, the choice of tranny will influence its progression on the track/street.
09-10-2007 | 06:40 AM
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This is definitely once area where the Europeans have Americans dominated - they know how to drive, and nearly all cars there are MT. Many of the autos are rentals that American tourists use.
For me driving is a pleasurable experience. Well, I make it that way at least. You'll rarely see me driving cool and easy down the road. I'm always going fast, darting in and out of traffic and hitting the turns hard, among other things.
And knock on wood, no accident as a result of such. In fact, the only accidents I've ever had were while consistently driving in a "civil" manner. Doing so was so boring I stopped paying attention to the road..
And the above is precisely why I think MTs are superior. They require more involvement to drive, hence require more attention to drive and more attention on the road, though only if you are experienced at it.
Just my opinion of course.
For me driving is a pleasurable experience. Well, I make it that way at least. You'll rarely see me driving cool and easy down the road. I'm always going fast, darting in and out of traffic and hitting the turns hard, among other things.
And knock on wood, no accident as a result of such. In fact, the only accidents I've ever had were while consistently driving in a "civil" manner. Doing so was so boring I stopped paying attention to the road..
And the above is precisely why I think MTs are superior. They require more involvement to drive, hence require more attention to drive and more attention on the road, though only if you are experienced at it.
Just my opinion of course.
09-10-2007 | 09:15 AM
#86
the 6mt is a better value imo. I prefer m/t in sport compact cars like g/z/rsx. I prefer autos for luxury sedans. Infinit'e m/t's are sold with more performance in mine than a/t. That's why the m/t's come standard with sports package and still get hand brakes but the auto doesn't! Hand brake is crucial IMO in time attack/drifting, how do you at's manage wout it in those "racing" conditions? Not trying to bash, honest, the fact that the g37 autos get same hp as mt's is a big step up in performance, but the tranny selection has different consequences in racing conditions, and on the street as it works both ways. Until smg, I'm sticking to m/t. As another post said; it really comes down to pesonal preference.
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09-10-2007 | 11:33 AM
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Jmunjr, the reason Europeans drive MTs is not because they are more enthusiastic about driving or that they think that you are a better driver if you drive stick.
I grew up in Europe and learned to drive in MT cars, just like everyone else over there. Learning to drive MT is no big deal. It just takes a little bit of practice, that’s all. After a while you get so used to it, that you don’t even notice that you are doing it. I could drive for miles and miles in heavy traffic and it doesn’t even register in my mind that I am shifting gears. It becomes so natural and routine, you can think about something totally different while you are going through the gears at each traffic light without even remembering when you shifted. You subconsciously shift gears based on car noise and speed, and after driving for a while there is no joy there. It becomes even a nuisance after a few years. You might as well let the AT do it for you.
Back to the topic. The reason Europeans drive stick is because they are VERY VERY gas consumption cautious. Gas prices in Europe are times higher than they are in the US. Europe is more densely populated and most driving is mixed to city. A car with MT is more fuel efficient because of less torque loss and lower weight. The vast majority of people over there drive cars that have 1.2 to 1.6 liter engines with 1.4 being the most popular choice, with power ranging in the 60-100 HP range. These are not enthusiasts’ cars. Vehicle annual taxes and title transfers become very steep for cars with engines above 2.0L.
Because cars in Europe are way underpowered compared to US standards for fuel consumption and emission purposes, an AT is simply not economical and powerful enough over there. I have driven a 1.4L car with an AT and it’s horrible – bad fuel economy and poor performance. You turn on the AC and it's even worse…So, naturaly, ATs are not popular. Plus, diesel is very popular over there. A diesel AT would be even more sluggish. Also, AT’s are a lot more expensive to replace over there. So Europeans drive MTs for economical reasons not enthusiastic ones.
Cars in the US are so much more powerful that you don’t feel the AT transmission losses in a 300+HP car plus the 2 MPG difference at US gas prices is not going to hurt your wallet, so naturally people choose convenience over savings.
I grew up in Europe and learned to drive in MT cars, just like everyone else over there. Learning to drive MT is no big deal. It just takes a little bit of practice, that’s all. After a while you get so used to it, that you don’t even notice that you are doing it. I could drive for miles and miles in heavy traffic and it doesn’t even register in my mind that I am shifting gears. It becomes so natural and routine, you can think about something totally different while you are going through the gears at each traffic light without even remembering when you shifted. You subconsciously shift gears based on car noise and speed, and after driving for a while there is no joy there. It becomes even a nuisance after a few years. You might as well let the AT do it for you.
Back to the topic. The reason Europeans drive stick is because they are VERY VERY gas consumption cautious. Gas prices in Europe are times higher than they are in the US. Europe is more densely populated and most driving is mixed to city. A car with MT is more fuel efficient because of less torque loss and lower weight. The vast majority of people over there drive cars that have 1.2 to 1.6 liter engines with 1.4 being the most popular choice, with power ranging in the 60-100 HP range. These are not enthusiasts’ cars. Vehicle annual taxes and title transfers become very steep for cars with engines above 2.0L.
Because cars in Europe are way underpowered compared to US standards for fuel consumption and emission purposes, an AT is simply not economical and powerful enough over there. I have driven a 1.4L car with an AT and it’s horrible – bad fuel economy and poor performance. You turn on the AC and it's even worse…So, naturaly, ATs are not popular. Plus, diesel is very popular over there. A diesel AT would be even more sluggish. Also, AT’s are a lot more expensive to replace over there. So Europeans drive MTs for economical reasons not enthusiastic ones.
Cars in the US are so much more powerful that you don’t feel the AT transmission losses in a 300+HP car plus the 2 MPG difference at US gas prices is not going to hurt your wallet, so naturally people choose convenience over savings.
Last edited by stoian21; 09-10-2007 at 03:34 PM.
09-10-2007 | 12:42 PM
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I choose the 6mt. There is just something about being in control of your gears that is more enjoyable to me, not to mention it comes standard with the sport package and is just way more fun to drive.
I live in So. Cal and frequent all the fun traffic spots 3-4 times a week and the ex who was living with me can't drive a stick. She begged me to get the auto but i said, nah. Plus once its modded, no way will she drive it.
I live in So. Cal and frequent all the fun traffic spots 3-4 times a week and the ex who was living with me can't drive a stick. She begged me to get the auto but i said, nah. Plus once its modded, no way will she drive it.
09-10-2007 | 12:59 PM
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Jmunjr, the reason Europeans drive MTs is not because they are more enthusiastic about driving or that they think that you are a better driver if you drive stick.
I grew up in Europe and learned to drive in MT cars, just like anyone else over there. Learning to drive MT is no big deal. It just takes a little bit of practice, that’s all. After a while you get so used to it, that you don’t even notice that you are doing it. I could drive for miles and miles in heavy traffic and it doesn’t even register in my mind that I am shifting gears. It becomes so natural and routine, you can think about something totally different while you are going through the gears at each traffic light without even remembering when you shifted. You subconsciously shift gears based on car noise and speed, and after driving for a while there is no joy there. It becomes even a nuisance after a few years. You might as well let the AT do it for you.
Back to the topic. The reason Europeans dive stick is because they are VERY VERY gas consumption cautious. Gas prices in Europe are times higher than they are in the US. Europe is more densely populated and most driving is mixed to city. A car with MT is more fuel efficient because of less torque loss and lower weight. The vast majority of people over there drive cars that have 1.2 to 1.6 liter engines with 1.4 being the most popular choice, with power ranging in the 60-100 HP range. These are not enthusiasts’ cars. Vehicle annual taxes and title transfers become very steep for cars with engines above 2.0L.
Because cars in Europe are way underpowered compared to US standards for fuel consumption and emission purposes, an AT is simply not economical and powerful enough over there. I have driven a 1.4L car with an AT and it’s horrible – bad fuel economy and poor performance. You turn on the AC and it's even worse…So, naturaly, ATs are not popular. Plus, diesel is very popular over there. A diesel AT would be even more sluggish. Also, AT’s are a lot more expensive to replace over there. So Europeans drive MTs for economical reasons not enthusiastic ones.
Cars in the US are so much more powerful that you don’t feel the AT transmission losses in a 300+HP car plus the 2 MPG difference at US gas prices is not going to hurt your wallet, so naturally people choose convenience over savings.
I grew up in Europe and learned to drive in MT cars, just like anyone else over there. Learning to drive MT is no big deal. It just takes a little bit of practice, that’s all. After a while you get so used to it, that you don’t even notice that you are doing it. I could drive for miles and miles in heavy traffic and it doesn’t even register in my mind that I am shifting gears. It becomes so natural and routine, you can think about something totally different while you are going through the gears at each traffic light without even remembering when you shifted. You subconsciously shift gears based on car noise and speed, and after driving for a while there is no joy there. It becomes even a nuisance after a few years. You might as well let the AT do it for you.
Back to the topic. The reason Europeans dive stick is because they are VERY VERY gas consumption cautious. Gas prices in Europe are times higher than they are in the US. Europe is more densely populated and most driving is mixed to city. A car with MT is more fuel efficient because of less torque loss and lower weight. The vast majority of people over there drive cars that have 1.2 to 1.6 liter engines with 1.4 being the most popular choice, with power ranging in the 60-100 HP range. These are not enthusiasts’ cars. Vehicle annual taxes and title transfers become very steep for cars with engines above 2.0L.
Because cars in Europe are way underpowered compared to US standards for fuel consumption and emission purposes, an AT is simply not economical and powerful enough over there. I have driven a 1.4L car with an AT and it’s horrible – bad fuel economy and poor performance. You turn on the AC and it's even worse…So, naturaly, ATs are not popular. Plus, diesel is very popular over there. A diesel AT would be even more sluggish. Also, AT’s are a lot more expensive to replace over there. So Europeans drive MTs for economical reasons not enthusiastic ones.
Cars in the US are so much more powerful that you don’t feel the AT transmission losses in a 300+HP car plus the 2 MPG difference at US gas prices is not going to hurt your wallet, so naturally people choose convenience over savings.
If anyone doesn't think you can drive this 5 A/T fast, hold gears, double down-shift, etc., you need to try it. Sure it doesn't have a hand e-brake, but that would be about all that it lacks.
jmunjr needs to buy a hemi cuda and get off this board
