Thanks for the copy.

I'm surprised they didn't do a full review. Seems like a quick summary more than a road test. Very little detail.

I also don't undertsand why alot of these cars are being tested with the 4WAS while the BMW is not provided with the "active steering" option. I would think they would want to do a more apples to apples comparison, preferably without either 4WAS or active steering. Especially since more than one review has now noted that the 4WAS seems to be more for safety (heavier understeer) than for better handling. In the reviews without the 4WAS, it seems that the G37 either matched or bettered the 335. I wonder if the summary would have been reversed if they had optioned the car different.

Either way, the reviews have been pretty good and the fact that they keep matching up these 2 cars together tells you that they are the top dogs in this class.

 

I completely agree. I'm glad that Infiniti is even able to compete with BMW that has been around for decades and decades. If the Infiniti G37 was being compared with the BMW 328i (both $35,000 base and NA)... the G37 would win hands down.

 

They compare NA and FI because they are similarly priced cars in the same segment. How they achieve the end result doesn't matter to the magazines. Of course you could say "FI the G then compare", to which I say "bore out the 335i to 3.7L" and then compare. See? Mod one car and it's a slippery slope.

 

I agree. These 2 cars are the ones to compare. Power is similar, even if they get there different ways.

I'm back and forth on these 2. They both have pluses and minuses. My final test drive will be the determination.

 

I wouldn't go that far.

The 335's will soon make close to 500 hp, with just PROcede V2 and Full Exhaust. You can buy all that for about $3000.

They are making somewhere in the 400hp area right now with just the PROcede V1.45 . In about 2 months PROcede V2 will be released with an aditional 50hp (estimated) and downpipes (another 50hp).

Check the BMW forums and see for yourself.

The G37 was not faster than the 335 stock, and it will not be faster modded vs modded either.

Don't be so insecure. The G37 is still a nice car and a good value.

 

Aaaaahhh... so many different numbers now... all of these comparison tests and reviews are confusing me. lol Road and Track gets 5.5 with the 6MT when Car and Driver gets it in 5.3? The Motor Trend magazine got the 5AT in 5.4 and Edmunds got it in 5.5... Aiyaaaaaa.

 

only a $3k price difference and the 335I blows out the G37...13.4 vs 14.1 on the 1/4,

4.8 0-60 vs 5.5.......

 

You can't be serous. If you take a second and divide it by 10 and then say that one or two tenths of a differance confuses you? Actually there are so many variables that I'm surprised that the times are so close. If you check, most of the time C&D gets the best times because of their aggressive launches, so it doesn't surprise me that they are faster than R&T. I would expect that the R&T time will be more representative of what the average guy will get.

I remember the first time that I drove an S2000 and how surprised I was at how sluggish it felt despite the 5.5 secs 0/60 that was being quoted in some magazines, which was quite respectable at the time. It wasn't until I discovered that you had to launch the dam thing at 7K RPM, that it made any sense to me.

To me rolling starts give a far better indication of how quick a car will be on the street. These magazine reports will give you a hint of how fast a car will be, but you won't know if the car meets your standards until you test drive it.

So bottom line is that the G37 is a little bit faster than the G35.

 

as long as they continue making the car heavier, it is not going to matter how much power it is going to have. 03-04 and 05-06 power to weight ratio is almost is the same that is why they have identical 1/4 mile numbers. More weight = fuked up handling and i don't care what any magazine says about the new G35.

THe closest infiniti ever got to BMW is the first Generation G35 after that it was all downhill with added weight.

 

$3k? They obviously are not equally equipped. Comparing a fully loaded (including the 4WAS on the Inifiniti) to a BMW without many options is not apples to apples. Go on BMW's website and price one out with active steering (not as complex as 4WAS), premium, NAV, sport, comfort access, cold weather, active cruise, park distance control (still not as good as a backup camera), SAT, and Ipod. Total - $53,720. Oh. and if you want a mettalic color - it's over $54k. Using a G35 sedan (2007) as a guide, it's only $41,275 100% loaded. And that is comparably equipped.

The 335 is 100% the faster car, but save the $3k difference for other forums.

I hope we are going to see some more road tests without the 4WAS. So far, besides safety, it seems like it is all negatives. And the added weight skews the performance of the car.

 

On one of the tests the rolling start 5-60 was 5.9 seconds. I think on the previous generation it was 6.2 or 6.3. So the two generations seem to perform almost the same out the gate. And this one- although fully loaded is at 14.1 in the quarter mile- although this is the slowest result I have seen from the 37- that is definitely consistent with the best results I have ever seen from the previous generation. So an many cases- at the track- it would be a drivers race in the straight line.

 

Yes, I believe that you are right. Furthermore, if the G35 is modded the modest differance in performance between the two cars should all but disappear.

 

Uh, I'm guessing this is at the flywheel. I've seen what Proceed does to the 335i, and its mainly around 350whp & 375 lb of tq to the wheels.

A Proceed V2 with exhaust system shoud get them around the 400 whp range, not 500.

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