It's Official - G37 Trounces 335i!
06-25-2007, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel350
I don't get it. How can they only pull a 14.0 in the 1/4 mile when the G37 dynoed at 50+ more HP than a G35? There are stock G35's pulling 13.7's.
06-25-2007, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel350
I don't get it. How can they only pull a 14.0 in the 1/4 mile when the G37 dynoed at 50+ more HP than a G35? There are stock G35's pulling 13.7's.
06-25-2007, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mygiantcircle
All this bickering is fun, but now it's getting tiring.
06-25-2007, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mygiantcircle
picus...I appreciate your non-sense input.
I have been on the fence on these two car options. Don't get me wrong - I like both cars...ALOT! and if I have the money, I would like one of each. But, alas, money is hard earned for me, so I buy a car I really like, and keep it for years.
Like I mentioned, I now drive a pristine 90Z, and I love her like the day I got her.
I used to drive and work on turbo cars (Starion and RX7T2), and I would love to get the 335 because of the untapped potential. The extra $7k is nothing for me because, since I keep the car for a long time, it does not matter much (just spend the $$ to get something I really like).
But here are my issues:
1) no LSD. This is a joke (I supposed I have to research to find out how much an aftermarket one costs, and whether it voids any warranty).
2) reliability - issues after issue: fuel pump, oil temp, #5/6 cyclinder cooling. If I were to keep the car until the warranty runs out, then fine, but I keep mine for 10yrs! I wonder how much parts and repair will cost when things like the turbos start to go (and trust me, all the hoses/harnesses under the hood will harden/crack from all the heat before you know it - remember I worked on my turbo cars). I have very little issues with my NA Z, btw.
3) the BMW dealers. Nuff said.
3) interior styling/i-drive is blah to me (but heck, I could live with it)
For the G37, I am disappointed at some styling cues, but overall I like it (flew to NYAS just to see it). I am disappointed at the weight, but I need to drive it for a fair comparison. And it will be hard to mod later...way later...when the warranty runs out!
Man...may be I should wait around for another year to see the GTR...
All this bickering is fun, but now it's getting tiring.
I have been on the fence on these two car options. Don't get me wrong - I like both cars...ALOT! and if I have the money, I would like one of each. But, alas, money is hard earned for me, so I buy a car I really like, and keep it for years.
Like I mentioned, I now drive a pristine 90Z, and I love her like the day I got her.
I used to drive and work on turbo cars (Starion and RX7T2), and I would love to get the 335 because of the untapped potential. The extra $7k is nothing for me because, since I keep the car for a long time, it does not matter much (just spend the $$ to get something I really like).
But here are my issues:
1) no LSD. This is a joke (I supposed I have to research to find out how much an aftermarket one costs, and whether it voids any warranty).
2) reliability - issues after issue: fuel pump, oil temp, #5/6 cyclinder cooling. If I were to keep the car until the warranty runs out, then fine, but I keep mine for 10yrs! I wonder how much parts and repair will cost when things like the turbos start to go (and trust me, all the hoses/harnesses under the hood will harden/crack from all the heat before you know it - remember I worked on my turbo cars). I have very little issues with my NA Z, btw.
3) the BMW dealers. Nuff said.
3) interior styling/i-drive is blah to me (but heck, I could live with it)
For the G37, I am disappointed at some styling cues, but overall I like it (flew to NYAS just to see it). I am disappointed at the weight, but I need to drive it for a fair comparison. And it will be hard to mod later...way later...when the warranty runs out!
Man...may be I should wait around for another year to see the GTR...
All this bickering is fun, but now it's getting tiring.
I know what you mean though. RE: LSD, you can get one for $1700 USD, it won't void the warranty but like anything, if your suspension falls apart and they can prove it was the LSD it might. I don't think you'll have an issue with adding an LSD to a car, I don't think I've ever seen that cause a problem.
The fuel pump thing is solved, so no worries there. The cylinder 5/6 thing is still a rumor at best - no one has been able to confirm it, in fact the only guys with real info on it (the tuners) say it's not even a problem. I guess we'll see.
Dealers... uhg, I agree.
06-25-2007, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel350
Gotta luv BMW's owners incessant whining and idiotic comments:
A few posts from their board:
A few posts from their board:
06-25-2007, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel350
I don't get it. How can they only pull a 14.0 in the 1/4 mile when the G37 dynoed at 50+ more HP than a G35? There are stock G35's pulling 13.7's.
The VQ35DE (revup) would typically put down ~240 on a dynojet, and the non-revup would put anywhere between 215 and 225 on a dynojet.
And to my knowledge there has never been a VQ35DE g35 to hit a 13.7 stock(though BobbyD was close with a 13.8).
What concerns me more is the trap speed: 100.9ph. That's pigtastic IMO. BobbyD, in his 03.5 6MT Sedan, trapped almost exactly 101mph bone stock, down to the tire. Granted, the conditions were ideal compared to when this review was conducted, but that should be an embarrassment to Infiniti.
06-26-2007, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by lil_leftyy
so 335i automatics dont come with oil coolers and 6MTs do? just wanted to confirm this
06-26-2007, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by mantisG35
there's always "hope" between the lines every time i read a post about the G37. no, the car wont be faster, wont be lighter, and wont have better gas mileage.
the car is a slow *** fat machine. let's face it
the car is a slow *** fat machine. let's face it
MT has less to breakin so that may be a more accurate measure but even it has improved gas mileage with added miles.
06-26-2007, 12:39 AM
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Let's put this car in perspective.
BobbyD has an 03.5 sedan, 6 speed. Bone stock down to the Turanza all season tires. He's a great driver, can launch the **** out of the car, and in great conditions, he ran a 13.8@101mph. That was the first version of the VQ35DE, with a 6600rpm redline, ~5% taller gearing, and a less evolved ecu tune(presumably).
This 08 coupe is the pinnacle of Nissan's VQ tech. It represents an advance of 5 model years. It has shorter gearing, twin intakes/throttle bodies, equal length exhaust manifolds, variable timing(intake and exhaust), and lift, a 5.5% bump in displacement, an increase of the redline by the tune of 900rpms, and even a marginal increase in compression. It's been dyno'd to make a peak of 290hp to the wheels! That's ~15hp more at peak than the 03.5 sedan made at the crank!
And it can't match BobbyD's 1/4 time or trap speed.
My days are numbered as an Infiniti/Nissan enthusiast.
BobbyD has an 03.5 sedan, 6 speed. Bone stock down to the Turanza all season tires. He's a great driver, can launch the **** out of the car, and in great conditions, he ran a 13.8@101mph. That was the first version of the VQ35DE, with a 6600rpm redline, ~5% taller gearing, and a less evolved ecu tune(presumably).
This 08 coupe is the pinnacle of Nissan's VQ tech. It represents an advance of 5 model years. It has shorter gearing, twin intakes/throttle bodies, equal length exhaust manifolds, variable timing(intake and exhaust), and lift, a 5.5% bump in displacement, an increase of the redline by the tune of 900rpms, and even a marginal increase in compression. It's been dyno'd to make a peak of 290hp to the wheels! That's ~15hp more at peak than the 03.5 sedan made at the crank!
And it can't match BobbyD's 1/4 time or trap speed.
My days are numbered as an Infiniti/Nissan enthusiast.
06-26-2007, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by trey.hutcheson
Let's put this car in perspective.
BobbyD has an 03.5 sedan, 6 speed. Bone stock down to the Turanza all season tires. He's a great driver, can launch the **** out of the car, and in great conditions, he ran a 13.8@101mph. That was the first version of the VQ35DE, with a 6600rpm redline, ~5% taller gearing, and a less evolved ecu tune(presumably).
This 08 coupe is the pinnacle of Nissan's VQ tech. It represents an advance of 5 model years. It has shorter gearing, twin intakes/throttle bodies, equal length exhaust manifolds, variable timing(intake and exhaust), and lift, a 5.5% bump in displacement, an increase of the redline by the tune of 900rpms, and even a marginal increase in compression. It's been dyno'd to make a peak of 290hp to the wheels! That's ~15hp more at peak than the 03.5 sedan made at the crank!
And it can't match BobbyD's 1/4 time or trap speed.
My days are numbered as an Infiniti/Nissan enthusiast.
BobbyD has an 03.5 sedan, 6 speed. Bone stock down to the Turanza all season tires. He's a great driver, can launch the **** out of the car, and in great conditions, he ran a 13.8@101mph. That was the first version of the VQ35DE, with a 6600rpm redline, ~5% taller gearing, and a less evolved ecu tune(presumably).
This 08 coupe is the pinnacle of Nissan's VQ tech. It represents an advance of 5 model years. It has shorter gearing, twin intakes/throttle bodies, equal length exhaust manifolds, variable timing(intake and exhaust), and lift, a 5.5% bump in displacement, an increase of the redline by the tune of 900rpms, and even a marginal increase in compression. It's been dyno'd to make a peak of 290hp to the wheels! That's ~15hp more at peak than the 03.5 sedan made at the crank!
And it can't match BobbyD's 1/4 time or trap speed.
My days are numbered as an Infiniti/Nissan enthusiast.
06-26-2007, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by trey.hutcheson
Let's put this car in perspective.
BobbyD has an 03.5 sedan, 6 speed. Bone stock down to the Turanza all season tires. He's a great driver, can launch the **** out of the car, and in great conditions, he ran a 13.8@101mph. That was the first version of the VQ35DE, with a 6600rpm redline, ~5% taller gearing, and a less evolved ecu tune(presumably).
This 08 coupe is the pinnacle of Nissan's VQ tech. It represents an advance of 5 model years. It has shorter gearing, twin intakes/throttle bodies, equal length exhaust manifolds, variable timing(intake and exhaust), and lift, a 5.5% bump in displacement, an increase of the redline by the tune of 900rpms, and even a marginal increase in compression. It's been dyno'd to make a peak of 290hp to the wheels! That's ~15hp more at peak than the 03.5 sedan made at the crank!
And it can't match BobbyD's 1/4 time or trap speed.
My days are numbered as an Infiniti/Nissan enthusiast.
BobbyD has an 03.5 sedan, 6 speed. Bone stock down to the Turanza all season tires. He's a great driver, can launch the **** out of the car, and in great conditions, he ran a 13.8@101mph. That was the first version of the VQ35DE, with a 6600rpm redline, ~5% taller gearing, and a less evolved ecu tune(presumably).
This 08 coupe is the pinnacle of Nissan's VQ tech. It represents an advance of 5 model years. It has shorter gearing, twin intakes/throttle bodies, equal length exhaust manifolds, variable timing(intake and exhaust), and lift, a 5.5% bump in displacement, an increase of the redline by the tune of 900rpms, and even a marginal increase in compression. It's been dyno'd to make a peak of 290hp to the wheels! That's ~15hp more at peak than the 03.5 sedan made at the crank!
And it can't match BobbyD's 1/4 time or trap speed.
My days are numbered as an Infiniti/Nissan enthusiast.
I'm not losing sleep over it...don't get me wrong. However, you make a compelling argument.
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