what will 0-60 be? in 08 g37
#212
a Stock G37 just dynoed 287 whp and 239 hp...... based on those numbers the 330hp is an underratting the G37 is putting out approx 345 hp..... an old m3 will have a serious fight on its hands and if it is an smg it will lose. Remember this car won't die up top
Last edited by da45king; 05-22-2007 at 08:02 PM.
#213
Hahaha, dude, the G37 will not touch any M3 in any form of performance (we'll see about braking).
You think the 15hp will give the 37 the edge? I bet the M3 still has this car by .5 second to 60 and in the 1/4. And the M3 doesn't slow down up top, either.
Aggressive gearing and weight, my friend.
An E46 M3 will take a 335i coupe. So if you are saying the G37 will take the M3, surely it will easily take the 335i also, right? Nice try.
You think the 15hp will give the 37 the edge? I bet the M3 still has this car by .5 second to 60 and in the 1/4. And the M3 doesn't slow down up top, either.
Aggressive gearing and weight, my friend.
An E46 M3 will take a 335i coupe. So if you are saying the G37 will take the M3, surely it will easily take the 335i also, right? Nice try.
#214
Originally Posted by muscarel
I disagree. If you look at the curves along with shift points, it seems the 335 makes more power more often than the G, although less so as you go into 2nd and 3rd, etc.
The M3 if I recall weighs less than a 335, so that is why it is faster. It also has a LSD which may help at take-off.
The G35 sedan (07) has about 20-30 less HP than the new G37 (at the wheels). The 1/4 mile times for the sedan are about 13.9. 20-30 HP at the wheels with more weight is not going to get you down to low 13s. I'd be surprised (and happy) if the new G37 is a 13.5 car. I stand by my guess of 13.6-13.7. It will be good to see what the 1st road test numbers look like, but I think you are setting yourself up for a disappointment.
Hypnoz - 13.1 is just ridiculous. That will never happen.
The M3 if I recall weighs less than a 335, so that is why it is faster. It also has a LSD which may help at take-off.
The G35 sedan (07) has about 20-30 less HP than the new G37 (at the wheels). The 1/4 mile times for the sedan are about 13.9. 20-30 HP at the wheels with more weight is not going to get you down to low 13s. I'd be surprised (and happy) if the new G37 is a 13.5 car. I stand by my guess of 13.6-13.7. It will be good to see what the 1st road test numbers look like, but I think you are setting yourself up for a disappointment.
Hypnoz - 13.1 is just ridiculous. That will never happen.
1. Same hp:weight ratio as the 07 base/enth Z.
2. More aggressive gearing
3. More power everywhere, especially in the high rpm's where it will matter for acceleration.
The 07Z's are getting 13.3-13.5 @103-104 for 1/4 mile times.
If you don't think a 13.1 is possible then you will be in for a surprise.
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Originally Posted by wyatthanson
Hahaha, dude, the G37 will not touch any M3 in any form of performance (we'll see about braking).
You think the 15hp will give the 37 the edge? I bet the M3 still has this car by .5 second to 60 and in the 1/4. And the M3 doesn't slow down up top, either.
Aggressive gearing and weight, my friend.
An E46 M3 will take a 335i coupe. So if you are saying the G37 will take the M3, surely it will easily take the 335i also, right? Nice try.
You think the 15hp will give the 37 the edge? I bet the M3 still has this car by .5 second to 60 and in the 1/4. And the M3 doesn't slow down up top, either.
Aggressive gearing and weight, my friend.
An E46 M3 will take a 335i coupe. So if you are saying the G37 will take the M3, surely it will easily take the 335i also, right? Nice try.
#217
Originally Posted by Hypnoz
Look here are the facts:
1. Same hp:weight ratio as the 07 base/enth Z.
2. More aggressive gearing
3. More power everywhere, especially in the high rpm's where it will matter for acceleration.
The 07Z's are getting 13.3-13.5 @103-104 for 1/4 mile times.
If you don't think a 13.1 is possible then you will be in for a surprise.
1. Same hp:weight ratio as the 07 base/enth Z.
2. More aggressive gearing
3. More power everywhere, especially in the high rpm's where it will matter for acceleration.
The 07Z's are getting 13.3-13.5 @103-104 for 1/4 mile times.
If you don't think a 13.1 is possible then you will be in for a surprise.
Hypnoz, I hope you are right, but realistically I do not think that is possible. What have the major car mags been getting with the 07 Z? I think car and driver got 13.7 and I remember another one was close to 14.0 (can't remember where). On my350z.com, I only know of one guy on there that ran a 13.3. Other people are 13.6 and up. The G37 has a power to weight ratio slightly worse than the current Z (11.1 to 10.9). I say this is one where the mags will see mid-high 13s and after some time and practice you'll see a few people break 13.5, but the majority will be higher.
This reminds me of the 335 forums, where everyone is saying the procede cars are running 12's, when the only 12 second (high 12) procede car is usiing drag radials. The ones on the run flats are barely running better than what the magazines got stock.
Hopefully, Automobile magazine will update their web site with some test numbers soon. They had to take the car to the strip while they had it for the dyno.
#218
Dude, I am getting a G37 so I hope you're right, but you're being unrealistic.
Who said the G handled better? I read that article too, and it was biased to say the least, and was unclear.
The M3 will outhandle the 335i, so you are drawing FALSE conclusions.
How does the G have the same pwer:weight ratio as M3? Same power, M3 is less weight... Hmm, that's a thinker.
Again, I hope you're right, just doubt it.
Who said the G handled better? I read that article too, and it was biased to say the least, and was unclear.
The M3 will outhandle the 335i, so you are drawing FALSE conclusions.
How does the G have the same pwer:weight ratio as M3? Same power, M3 is less weight... Hmm, that's a thinker.
Again, I hope you're right, just doubt it.
#219
Originally Posted by muscarel
Hypnoz, I hope you are right, but realistically I do not think that is possible. What have the major car mags been getting with the 07 Z? I think car and driver got 13.7 and I remember another one was close to 14.0 (can't remember where). On my350z.com, I only know of one guy on there that ran a 13.3. Other people are 13.6 and up. The G37 has a power to weight ratio slightly worse than the current Z (11.1 to 10.9). I say this is one where the mags will see mid-high 13s and after some time and practice you'll see a few people break 13.5, but the majority will be higher.
This reminds me of the 335 forums, where everyone is saying the procede cars are running 12's, when the only 12 second (high 12) procede car is usiing drag radials. The ones on the run flats are barely running better than what the magazines got stock.
Hopefully, Automobile magazine will update their web site with some test numbers soon. They had to take the car to the strip while they had it for the dyno.
This reminds me of the 335 forums, where everyone is saying the procede cars are running 12's, when the only 12 second (high 12) procede car is usiing drag radials. The ones on the run flats are barely running better than what the magazines got stock.
Hopefully, Automobile magazine will update their web site with some test numbers soon. They had to take the car to the strip while they had it for the dyno.
Like I said, same hp:weight ratio, better gearing, better power curve = faster than 07 z. This can't be proven until conclusive tests are done and actual people own the car obviously, but this is my prediction.
#220
Originally Posted by wyatthanson
Dude, I am getting a G37 so I hope you're right, but you're being unrealistic.
Who said the G handled better? I read that article too, and it was biased to say the least, and was unclear.
The M3 will outhandle the 335i, so you are drawing FALSE conclusions.
How does the G have the same pwer:weight ratio as M3? Same power, M3 is less weight... Hmm, that's a thinker.
Again, I hope you're right, just doubt it.
Who said the G handled better? I read that article too, and it was biased to say the least, and was unclear.
The M3 will outhandle the 335i, so you are drawing FALSE conclusions.
How does the G have the same pwer:weight ratio as M3? Same power, M3 is less weight... Hmm, that's a thinker.
Again, I hope you're right, just doubt it.
I'd have to do some digging to find which mag actually said it, but if you really want I will. They are all biased. Most towards bimmer.
As I indicated, the M3 is better handling than the 335. The G37 (could be) slightly better handling than the 335, which could bring it close to the M3.
Let's just wait and see. No point in magazine racing for days on end... I can see now why most people don't take part in it.
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most people on this forum is biased toward nissan. well, obviously, this is a g35 forum.
if you go to a bimmer forum, some of the current m3 owners think they can beat MB clk63 black series with the new coming e92 m3.
eventhough i own a g35. its a good car, nice interior, sexy exterior and good price. however, i know that i dont own the fastest car in the world. for example, i know that i wont beat a e46 m3 unless i go f/i. eventhough my car is 40 hp less.
bmw=better handling than nissan, better tranny than nissan, better motor...but cheap *** interior and cheap toy doors too
thats why they sell their 335 for 50k+
(oh ****, flame shield on! )
if you go to a bimmer forum, some of the current m3 owners think they can beat MB clk63 black series with the new coming e92 m3.
eventhough i own a g35. its a good car, nice interior, sexy exterior and good price. however, i know that i dont own the fastest car in the world. for example, i know that i wont beat a e46 m3 unless i go f/i. eventhough my car is 40 hp less.
bmw=better handling than nissan, better tranny than nissan, better motor...but cheap *** interior and cheap toy doors too
thats why they sell their 335 for 50k+
(oh ****, flame shield on! )
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Sorry this is way off topic but, I really believe if Nissan really wanted to sell a sports/luxury car thats similar to the bmw 335i price and performance they can, and also probably even better.
But i believe there intentions are entirely differ. I think Nissan consists especially the g37 mostly for the consumers. In other words most people are not car ethusiasts and rather have a good bang for the buck for a automobile. Affordable>Looks>speed.
I really think the g37 is a great all arounder. And good bang for the buck and so is the evo, sti, and mazda 3.
But i believe there intentions are entirely differ. I think Nissan consists especially the g37 mostly for the consumers. In other words most people are not car ethusiasts and rather have a good bang for the buck for a automobile. Affordable>Looks>speed.
I really think the g37 is a great all arounder. And good bang for the buck and so is the evo, sti, and mazda 3.
#225
Not sure on the 0-60 time. But i just read the other day where the dynoed the car and there claimed hp was off. supposedly it was going to be 330hp? i belive dont hold me to that but i do know it put down 287whp. i'll look for that now and try posting it