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Old 07-20-2010 | 07:39 PM
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Cool R&T - Next Generation Mercedes-Benz-Powered Nissan-Z

Road & Track - Mercedes-Benz-Powered Nissan Z
When it was announced that Nissan /Renault was partnering with Daimler-Benz, we didn’t have a clue as to how close this relationship would be.

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When it was announced that Nissan/Renault was partnering with Daimler-Benz, we didn’t have a clue as to how close this relationship would be. We’re now hearing that it will be quite close, with the two companies planning to extensively share platforms and engines. The first reports from Japan suggested that the next-generation Infiniti G sedan and coupe, as well as future M sedans, will be built on the Mercedes-Benz E-Class platform. Then came more interesting news: how this relationship would affect the 370Z.

There are reports that the Z’s VQ V-6 may start being phased out soon (this engine was introduced in 1995, meaning it’s already 15 years old). Replacing the VQ 3.7-liter V-6 in the Z may be a trio of Mercedes-Benz powerplants.

The likely candidates are the E-Class’s V-6 diesel engine, a V-6 hybrid setup and quite possibly a V-8. If a diesel makes its way into the Z, it will be the 3.0-liter unit from the E350 BlueTEC. This powerplant puts out 211 bhp, making it much less powerful than the gasoline engine in the current Z, but torque is rated at nearly 400 lb.-ft. The hybrid option will most likely be the 3.5-liter V-6 mated with an electric motor—the setup currently in the S400 sedan.

As for the possibility of a V-8-powered Z, we feel that it’s far-fetched at this point, but both Mercedes-Benz’s 5.5-liter and Nissan’s 5.6-liter make sense. If Nissan engineers design the next Z to accommodate one of these potent engines, then the Z will have the power-to-weight chops to take on the Chevrolet Corvette. Nissan can even toy with the idea of fitting Mercedes-Benz’s 500-plus-bhp AMG engine, creating a beast that’ll give the GT-R a run for its money.
Old 07-20-2010 | 07:53 PM
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630Z AMG.

Thank you.
Old 07-20-2010 | 07:56 PM
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Lol same thing I was thinkin.

Except more along the lines of G63 AMG.
Old 07-20-2010 | 08:13 PM
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This could get as ridiculous as a Subarashi Lanpreza WRX Evolution STi
Old 07-20-2010 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike
630Z AMG.

Thank you.
The NA 6.3 AMG V8 is being phased out, but 550Z Twin-Turbo or 470Z Twin-Turbo have a nice ring to them...
Old 07-20-2010 | 11:54 PM
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This could get as ridiculous as a Subarashi Lanpreza WRX Evolution STi
LOL!
Old 07-21-2010 | 12:27 AM
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If they give the G a V8 and build it on an E-Class platform then what's the incentive to buy an M?
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If they give the G a V8 and build it on an E-Class platform then what's the incentive to buy an M?
What's the incentive to buy an M over a G? They're both built on the FM platform

Inevitably, the M will offer more space and amenities....
Old 07-21-2010 | 12:59 PM
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What's the incentive to buy an M over a G? They're both built on the FM platform

Inevitably, the M will offer more space and amenities....
The M is a physically bigger car; it's built on a stretched FM palatform with reinforcement for additional torsional rigidity. The M also comes with a V8.

There's a big difference in size between the C class and the E class. So even though you can get a V8 in the C class (C63) it costs a lot more than the base E class and it's quite a bit smaller.
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Thanks for posting.

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This could get as ridiculous as a Subarashi Lanpreza WRX Evolution STi

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Originally Posted by JohnEnglish
The M is a physically bigger car; it's built on a stretched FM palatform with reinforcement for additional torsional rigidity. The M also comes with a V8.

There's a big difference in size between the C class and the E class. So even though you can get a V8 in the C class (C63) it costs a lot more than the base E class and it's quite a bit smaller.
Precisely. The E's platform is adaptable as well.
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Why cant Infiniti IPL just come out and let us NOT partner up with MB?
Old 07-21-2010 | 06:43 PM
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Precisely. The E's platform is adaptable as well.
Yeah, I guess they would shrink the platform down for the G. I don't see them making the M any bigger.
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but the FM platform is the M, G coupe/sedan/vert, EX, 370z, and the FX...

I will leave Infiniti if they use any Benz parts

but look at the Chrysler 300... E-class benz components and it's a hit

the new Jeep Grand Cherokee is really a platform shared w/ the Mercedes ML.... so Jeep is saying the benz platform is great.

I think it's a slap in Japanese engineering if they use any Benz parts into a G or Z
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