christian655321

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My point is we need to talk apples to apples, we are talking about the M3 and C63 and a TT G37. There are no comparisons with these cars, we can only speculate on how they would compare. You cant take past comparisons and apply them to a car that doesnt exist.

christian655321

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I think we just need to ask one question and take it from there.

1. If a G37 TT met or exceeded performance level of the M3 and\or C63 would you consider it as an option? I think any smart buyer would factor it in, or at least have a look.

crazjayz

Why can't we take past comparison? You essentially have to look how their current offerings fare to project what future offerings will be like.

Yes. That's the obvious answer. A person looking for a high-power, 4-door sport sedan is going to consider the M3, C63, RS4, IS-F, and yes, a hypothetical G37TT. Now, different people rule out the cars based on a variety of factors, but mainly performance, price, and comfort. The real question is how does the G37TT compare to this?

christian655321

iTrader: (5)

The reason you cant take past comparisons is because the G37 is a totally different car when you add a TT.

"The real question is how does the G37TT compare to this? "

okay here you go cost 65k, same as M3 and C63 agree? build one on their site and youll see you are easily at 65k

use me as an example, 39k for the car new OTD price, approx 22k in upgrades = 61k

so as far as price we are there, so next is comfort - this is probably more of a personal choice and everyone is going to vary - my G is pretty cozy but its not a caddy.

performance - Here is where i think the G would win hands down except for maybe on the skidpad. I think the M3 would be the winner here.

need proof? - this is the one factor that is missing, but let me assure you - 464.9wrhp @ 6psi (spring pressure) and 1/4 mile time of 12.539 seconds @116 is going to be damn close to what those cars have.

crazjayz

Sure, I agree with everything you're saying. Your numbers add up (C63 does a 12.4 at around 114). Now this is just my opinion, but at $61k, I would not buy a G37TT. At $55k, maybe, but not at $65k. Once again, just my opinion.

christian655321

iTrader: (5)

Okay well then here is the next question , would you buy a m3 or c63 for 65?

crazjayz

I'm preferential to the C63. Yes, I would buy one for $65k if I felt like I was getting a good deal on one. Fully-loaded they're a hair above $80k, so it comes down to the deal.

christian655321

iTrader: (5)

So do we get to mod a g37 to 80k now ?

crazjayz

Haha, if you want. I'm just saying, same price, same performance, I'm going with the Merc. While it's true that a fully-loaded C63 is $80k, the majority of owners have paid around $65k. Infiniti's strategy thus far in the luxury car segment has been to be a low-cost leader. Offer as much of the competitor as possible as the best prices. Also, as I've said before this is all just my opinion. I'd prefer if other people chimed in as well though. We've kinda dominated the thread

christian655321

iTrader: (5)

We as consumers always want the most for our dollar , expectaions for how much something should cost and what is really does cost is going to vary - on top of that there are occasions when expectations exceed reality which IMO is the case here. You have to pay to play and that's the bottom line.

xyz

iTrader: (1)

I would love for Infiniti to come up with a M3 / c63 / rs4 / is-f fighter and priced along the infiniti trend (95% of the PERFORMANCE, not total package, for the 80~85%% of the price). TT or not, doesn't matter, as long as the overall performance. I do think TT is a viable solution because car companies as a whole are all looking into FI as a way to get the higher performance while meeting the lower emission restrictions. Again, I believe the main selling point would be that it being a "bang for the buck" M3 fighter.

christian655321

iTrader: (5)

Im betting reality is going to be direct port injection twin turbo for 2011, for mpg efficiency only. Resulting in ~around the same HP as the 2010 but with higher MPG.

I would love to see a performance line on the "S" models and have the optional engine be available to G, M, and FX models.