How much would you pay for a stock 420HP G?
02-07-2010, 09:22 PM
#31
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More than 450 would push the car to over $65k. With more than 450hp, you're looking at some expensive modifications to a stock g37, not to mention if the VQ engine can handle that much over a sustained amount of time. Keep in mind that Infiniti still needs to warranty these cars.
02-07-2010, 09:26 PM
#32
how did you figure out the 65k number? arent we talking hypothetically? plus no one knows how much the engine can handle over time.
M3 which comes in around 60k anyway optioned out.
M3 which comes in around 60k anyway optioned out.
02-07-2010, 09:42 PM
#34
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The real issue is that it can't hit 65k. I wouldn't buy a G37 V-Spec (or whatever they want to call it) for that money. I would much rather get a lower kitted C63. I think they need to make the car around the 55-57k mark to be competitive, or around 12-15k less than an M3/C63.
02-07-2010, 10:14 PM
#35
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The real issue is that it can't hit 65k. I wouldn't buy a G37 V-Spec (or whatever they want to call it) for that money. I would much rather get a lower kitted C63. I think they need to make the car around the 55-57k mark to be competitive, or around 12-15k less than an M3/C63.[/QUOTE]
c63 sedan - 57,350 base 451hp (crank)
M3 coupe - 60,500 base + gas guzzler tax + destination 414hp (crank)
G37 coupe TT- ?? base 450 at the wheel
If you wouldnt spend 65 on a car, i dont see how you would afford any of these cars. add luxury tax, to anything over 50k and regular taxes and tags and you are at 65. plus gas guzzler tax for the m3
imo people who look at cars in this price range would actually consider the G if it had the similar performance, i know i would, thats probably why i have one.
The real issue is that it can't hit 65k. I wouldn't buy a G37 V-Spec (or whatever they want to call it) for that money. I would much rather get a lower kitted C63. I think they need to make the car around the 55-57k mark to be competitive, or around 12-15k less than an M3/C63.[/QUOTE]
c63 sedan - 57,350 base 451hp (crank)
M3 coupe - 60,500 base + gas guzzler tax + destination 414hp (crank)
G37 coupe TT- ?? base 450 at the wheel
If you wouldnt spend 65 on a car, i dont see how you would afford any of these cars. add luxury tax, to anything over 50k and regular taxes and tags and you are at 65. plus gas guzzler tax for the m3
imo people who look at cars in this price range would actually consider the G if it had the similar performance, i know i would, thats probably why i have one.
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02-07-2010, 10:32 PM
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The real issue is that it can't hit 65k. I wouldn't buy a G37 V-Spec (or whatever they want to call it) for that money. I would much rather get a lower kitted C63. I think they need to make the car around the 55-57k mark to be competitive, or around 12-15k less than an M3/C63.[/QUOTE]
c63 sedan - 57,350 base 451hp (crank)
M3 coupe - 60,500 base + gas guzzler tax + destination 414hp (crank)
G37 coupe TT- ?? base 450 at the wheel
If you wouldnt spend 65 on a car, i dont see how you would afford any of these cars. add luxury tax, to anything over 50k and regular taxes and tags and you are at 65. plus gas guzzler tax for the m3
imo people who look at cars in this price range would actually consider the G if it had the similar performance, i know i would, thats probably why i have one.[/QUOTE]
Just curious what do you mean by "luxury tax"? If you mean the US one it was abolished in 2003.
c63 sedan - 57,350 base 451hp (crank)
M3 coupe - 60,500 base + gas guzzler tax + destination 414hp (crank)
G37 coupe TT- ?? base 450 at the wheel
If you wouldnt spend 65 on a car, i dont see how you would afford any of these cars. add luxury tax, to anything over 50k and regular taxes and tags and you are at 65. plus gas guzzler tax for the m3
imo people who look at cars in this price range would actually consider the G if it had the similar performance, i know i would, thats probably why i have one.[/QUOTE]
Just curious what do you mean by "luxury tax"? If you mean the US one it was abolished in 2003.
02-07-2010, 10:38 PM
#37
Look how log it took Lexus to establish a high performance division. Making these cars is a very expensive process espeically since their low volume. Infiniti really needs to establish itself more before it can even consider doing this. That's why there's no Q yet. Carlos Ghosn said that he agrees that it would "make the brand better" but it needs to be shown it would be profitable and right now they can't show that.
Let's face it, Infiniti is a budget (best bang for the buck) marque. I think a budget M3 would do quite well and follow the path they are already on.
They will NEVER sell a Q line. Nobody is ever going to pay S class money for an Infiniti. It is NOT their business model, although I am sure they wish it was.
Shane D
02-07-2010, 10:42 PM
#38
This G37 was built for what infiniti deemed the average buyer. They built it for someone 40 years of age, who if not a female themselves, has to get their wife's approval to purchase it. The car turned sweet...in a metrosexual way...(not in the direction of the original G).
Need to redo this this thing
Need to redo this this thing
Shane D
02-07-2010, 10:50 PM
#39
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Just curious what do you mean by "luxury tax"? If you mean the US one it was abolished in 2003.[/QUOTE]
yes i thought that one was still in effect, obviously not up to date on tax law, thanks for the update!
Just curious what do you mean by "luxury tax"? If you mean the US one it was abolished in 2003.[/QUOTE]
yes i thought that one was still in effect, obviously not up to date on tax law, thanks for the update!
02-07-2010, 11:13 PM
#40
Cadillac is going to have a "v" series for every model - performance model
Toyota is purported to be comming out with a "G" sport series for their cars - stemming from the conecept car FT-86
Infinti doesnt have a performance lineup and perhaps now is the time, their CEO has already said the "Q" will be comming back , but failed to give any details. The Q lineup will be more luxury sedan based anyhow.
Lexus has the ISF. Nissan has the GTR, Infiniti needs to step up.
Toyota is purported to be comming out with a "G" sport series for their cars - stemming from the conecept car FT-86
Infinti doesnt have a performance lineup and perhaps now is the time, their CEO has already said the "Q" will be comming back , but failed to give any details. The Q lineup will be more luxury sedan based anyhow.
Lexus has the ISF. Nissan has the GTR, Infiniti needs to step up.
02-08-2010, 12:25 AM
#41
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c63 sedan - 57,350 base 451hp (crank)
M3 coupe - 60,500 base + gas guzzler tax + destination 414hp (crank)
G37 coupe TT- ?? base 450 at the wheel
If you wouldnt spend 65 on a car, i dont see how you would afford any of these cars. add luxury tax, to anything over 50k and regular taxes and tags and you are at 65. plus gas guzzler tax for the m3
imo people who look at cars in this price range would actually consider the G if it had the similar performance, i know i would, thats probably why i have one.
M3 coupe - 60,500 base + gas guzzler tax + destination 414hp (crank)
G37 coupe TT- ?? base 450 at the wheel
If you wouldnt spend 65 on a car, i dont see how you would afford any of these cars. add luxury tax, to anything over 50k and regular taxes and tags and you are at 65. plus gas guzzler tax for the m3
imo people who look at cars in this price range would actually consider the G if it had the similar performance, i know i would, thats probably why i have one.
Moreover, I agree that the reason I have my G is because it was waaay cheaper than the 335 (especially since I got mine during the winter sales promotion). But when you throw in the motorsport versions, as mentioned previously, it takes more than a high-powered engine and some mods to compete at that level. The IS-F isn't doing that well, especially in many reviews, and thus the Infiniti would have to break that same mold.
02-08-2010, 12:34 AM
#43
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B (being betting) will never happen, and thus A (equal price) will never happen either.
I strongly feel that if Infiniti wants to enter this segment, they need to raid the Nissan parts bin. Keep the same VQ engine, or even develop another VQTT engine based on the VQ30TT. Or just take the engine they proposed for the Essence concept.
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02-08-2010, 12:43 AM
#45
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