2011 G25 Turbo ( New Info - NO TURBO )
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Pretty much all the premium car carries around 8-10k worth of option, for G25 to be loaded at $30k that would mean it's around 20k-22k base, that's Toyota/Honda/Nissan pricing territory. I would guess the G25 base model to be around $27-28k.
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I pray to god that they do not release a g25 coupe. If they do these cars will be all over the place. Sucks for the sedan guys i already see a million sedans a week once this drops forget it!
One reason why I did not get a 335i or is350 there bottom class looks way to similiar.
Great competitor for the 328 thou. +1
g37 tt +2
One reason why I did not get a 335i or is350 there bottom class looks way to similiar.
Great competitor for the 328 thou. +1
g37 tt +2
They don't need a G25 to compete with the 328, the G37 already does that! Almost the same base price but a lot more hp, features/amenities, etc. Like C&D said in their 2009 10 best, "Think 335i performance for 328i price". 'Nuff said
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I agree. One of the things I like about the G is that there is not a "lower" model for people that just want the name, cachet, etc., like the joke that is the IS250 - 204 hp, look out! I also didn't go with an is350 due to the 250 looking exactly the same, plus the really tight back seat (and it costs more than the G). On the other hand, once the IS-F gets below $35K (hopefully in a year or two), it will be on my consideration list, tight back seat and all. But that's a whole other animal......
They don't need a G25 to compete with the 328, the G37 already does that! Almost the same base price but a lot more hp, features/amenities, etc. Like C&D said in their 2009 10 best, "Think 335i performance for 328i price". 'Nuff said
They don't need a G25 to compete with the 328, the G37 already does that! Almost the same base price but a lot more hp, features/amenities, etc. Like C&D said in their 2009 10 best, "Think 335i performance for 328i price". 'Nuff said
Like I mentioned before, the vast majority of the car buying population do not need or want a car with over 300HP, nor do they want to pay for it. IMO, the G25 will open up a new customer base for Infinit, which is definitely a good thing.
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Ok, then let's try this - Infiniti should not have a car in the price range of a VW GTI (just as an example, nothing against the GTI). The $33,xxx base price of the G sedan is as low-priced a car as they should make if they want to be considered a "luxury" brand and not water-down the name. IMO
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A 4 door GTI starts at $24k, I can't see the G25 starting anywhere near that low. I'd guess around the $28k-$29k mark. In Canada, Mercedes has a lowly C250 and BMW has a 323i, yet they are still considered a Luxury brand. Why can't Infiniti have a lower end model than a G37?
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You're right, it is a concept, but I am hoping the engine technologies make production in some form. I'm sure that they could easily get 360-380 hp out of a turbo 3.5 VQ. Even the twin-turbo Taurus SHO is making 365 hp with 3.5 liters. The possibilities are endless really.
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I wonder how much less the smaller engine weighs? It could lead to a 50/50 weight distribution -- or a rear bias. Would be nice to see a G25 sport option with lighter seats & wheels, less insulation, less gizmos, etc. I like 300+ hp but rarely get a chance to use it. Handling is often more fun than speed.
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This obviously makes sense from marketing standpoint, as well as improving the CAFE for Infiniti lineup. With FI technology getting better each year, I wouldn't mind replacing my current 08 sedan with a turbo G25 in a few years, provided they offer a 6MT version.
Hopefully the numbers will be around 280hp/270tq just like my first 2004 G35 coupe, which was plenty fast and got great fuel economy with a K&N Typhoon CAI (25mpg combined).
Hopefully the numbers will be around 280hp/270tq just like my first 2004 G35 coupe, which was plenty fast and got great fuel economy with a K&N Typhoon CAI (25mpg combined).
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slated for 2011, I wouldn't even consider buying a G until this comes out . the car is going to be EXACTLY the same. I mean I'm all for the G25 TwinTurbo... shoot if they intro this car below 30. I'm going to trade in my car screw VVEL and whatever money I'd lose.
to make sense... it has to be more expensive than the G37. either that or DI is positioned for 2012 and the G is going to start costing 40k
i mean the stock engine is 200/195. turbo is going to get it to VQ35DE HP/torque without even trying... (whether it comes that way from the factory, or with fairly simple tweaks.)
I can't imagine a normal consumer that would buy a NA VQ37 that does 330/270 getting 21mpg when you can get a Turbo VQ25 AWD that will probably get like 285/290 that'll probably do like 35 mpg if it was in any way cheaper. (that is unless they're going to pour more money into a g37 ie TT or SC)
i mean there's a 8k difference between the Audi 2.0T and the 3.2L. the G37 base is 33. if this car enters @ below 30.. might as well chop off the G37 now. it's like when they had the GS350 and the GS430. the GS350 was faster, smoother and cheaper. NOBODY BOUGHT A GS430.
All I'm saying... they have to make it physically different. they can't make the G37 and the G25 exist in the same body/platform....
to make sense... it has to be more expensive than the G37. either that or DI is positioned for 2012 and the G is going to start costing 40k
i mean the stock engine is 200/195. turbo is going to get it to VQ35DE HP/torque without even trying... (whether it comes that way from the factory, or with fairly simple tweaks.)
I can't imagine a normal consumer that would buy a NA VQ37 that does 330/270 getting 21mpg when you can get a Turbo VQ25 AWD that will probably get like 285/290 that'll probably do like 35 mpg if it was in any way cheaper. (that is unless they're going to pour more money into a g37 ie TT or SC)
i mean there's a 8k difference between the Audi 2.0T and the 3.2L. the G37 base is 33. if this car enters @ below 30.. might as well chop off the G37 now. it's like when they had the GS350 and the GS430. the GS350 was faster, smoother and cheaper. NOBODY BOUGHT A GS430.
All I'm saying... they have to make it physically different. they can't make the G37 and the G25 exist in the same body/platform....
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Are you guys reading the same article I'm reading?
Cause it clearly says: "will use the 2.5-liter V6 Nissan uses in the Japan-market Skyline 250GT"
It is not the same engine they use here in the Altima.
Now that that is cleared up, I think this car will be successful in the US. If they keep it around 250-280HP and about 5k cheaper than the current G37 It will be a great, direct, competitor to the 328. And that's the target of this car, not the G37.
It will go after the same cheapskates that go for the 328 instead of the 335 that the G37 couldn't quite attract. So what if the sales of G37s get reduced a bit. The overall numbers of Gs sold will rise. And that's the bottom line, units sold. I think it's a great move from Infiniti and I welcome this car in the G family.
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Cause it clearly says: "will use the 2.5-liter V6 Nissan uses in the Japan-market Skyline 250GT"
It is not the same engine they use here in the Altima.
Now that that is cleared up, I think this car will be successful in the US. If they keep it around 250-280HP and about 5k cheaper than the current G37 It will be a great, direct, competitor to the 328. And that's the target of this car, not the G37.
It will go after the same cheapskates that go for the 328 instead of the 335 that the G37 couldn't quite attract. So what if the sales of G37s get reduced a bit. The overall numbers of Gs sold will rise. And that's the bottom line, units sold. I think it's a great move from Infiniti and I welcome this car in the G family.
Stratos.-