Richie Front Strut Bar
#48
Originally Posted by Brando
Sorry Guys,
I'm stating my opinion only. After some more driving and hard cornering...
IMO this is a cosmetic upgrade only. I feel no real benefit other than looks. If you are good with that, great.
The alum bar is tooo soft and allows for way too much flex to have any effect. IMO
Think about it....under hard cornering, how much flex/deflection do you think there actually is between the tops of the strut towers??
1/8" - 1/4" maybe? This alum bar will allow that much flex with no problem, negating any effectiveness. The bends in the bar defeat the inside bracing. The mounts are great. The bar needs to me made of a much stiffer material.
JMHO
Terry B
I'm stating my opinion only. After some more driving and hard cornering...
IMO this is a cosmetic upgrade only. I feel no real benefit other than looks. If you are good with that, great.
The alum bar is tooo soft and allows for way too much flex to have any effect. IMO
Think about it....under hard cornering, how much flex/deflection do you think there actually is between the tops of the strut towers??
1/8" - 1/4" maybe? This alum bar will allow that much flex with no problem, negating any effectiveness. The bends in the bar defeat the inside bracing. The mounts are great. The bar needs to me made of a much stiffer material.
JMHO
Terry B
Lou
Last edited by lowrider; 06-20-2008 at 11:42 PM.
#49
Don't let me scare you off if you really want one......I'm still testing.
It actually helps stiffness some by just bolting the SS mounting plates down on top of the towers.
It just was not a WOW big difference for me. I still say the bar is too soft and alum is not the best material.
Here is a link to a good article on strut bar design principles:
http://www.rogueengineering.com/Merc...&Category_Code
It actually helps stiffness some by just bolting the SS mounting plates down on top of the towers.
It just was not a WOW big difference for me. I still say the bar is too soft and alum is not the best material.
Here is a link to a good article on strut bar design principles:
http://www.rogueengineering.com/Merc...&Category_Code
#50
I just purchased one of these (waiting for it to arrive via HollywoodG35) and I'd like to think we did our research. If you look at this link
http://www.greddy.com/products/displ...&SubCategory=9
you will see that the GReddy bar is made of aluminium also. The Ritchie Strut bar is very similar in design and I have to think if GReddy made one out of Aluminium then its must be a proven design, so Ritchie was not far off. Also, if you check out www.pasmag.com there is a dynamite Candy Hot Raspberry 350Z fitted with a GReddy bar...the car doesnt dissapoint ! It was built by Xtreme Motorsports. They are a Canadian maritime shop thats been around for over 15 years. It they are fitting their 350Z with a GReddy Aluminum bar then im thinking the Ritichie bar will work just fine on my car...and im gonna feel good about it everytime I think of the price I paid ! Regardless what material its made of, it WILL provide more stiffness bottom line. If you cant feel it, you're not driving your car hard enough. Thanks Ritchie !
http://www.greddy.com/products/displ...&SubCategory=9
you will see that the GReddy bar is made of aluminium also. The Ritchie Strut bar is very similar in design and I have to think if GReddy made one out of Aluminium then its must be a proven design, so Ritchie was not far off. Also, if you check out www.pasmag.com there is a dynamite Candy Hot Raspberry 350Z fitted with a GReddy bar...the car doesnt dissapoint ! It was built by Xtreme Motorsports. They are a Canadian maritime shop thats been around for over 15 years. It they are fitting their 350Z with a GReddy Aluminum bar then im thinking the Ritichie bar will work just fine on my car...and im gonna feel good about it everytime I think of the price I paid ! Regardless what material its made of, it WILL provide more stiffness bottom line. If you cant feel it, you're not driving your car hard enough. Thanks Ritchie !
Last edited by gsgottag; 02-17-2007 at 08:15 PM.
#51
Originally Posted by gsgottag
If you cant feel it, you're not driving your car hard enough. Thanks Ritchie !
<really trying to be nice here>
#55
The BIW of the G35 is fairly stiff to begin with so I would doubt that you would notice a big difference regardless of wheter you have a strut bar or not. Essentially, any 'linear' bar for the G35 is cosmetic. If you take a look at the Modulus of Elasitcity of TI (ARC) vs Aluminum (Richie), you are looking at less than half of the stifness. However, the moment of inertia for either bar given the packaging space is relatively small so you will not likely notice a difference regardless of the material. ALSO - this bar is not triangulated. Perhaps you would notice more of an impact if this was the configuration.
Regardless, if the chassis flexes 1/8", I doubt that a $700 titanium strut bar with give you the WOW factor that you are looking for.
I think a better comparison is to take both the ARC strut bar and the Al Richie bar on a road corse and see if your time/performance improves. To say that you notice that backing out of your driveway or taking an off ramp you notice a huge difference is speculative at best. I would rather see some comparative data to back it up.
Regardless, if the chassis flexes 1/8", I doubt that a $700 titanium strut bar with give you the WOW factor that you are looking for.
I think a better comparison is to take both the ARC strut bar and the Al Richie bar on a road corse and see if your time/performance improves. To say that you notice that backing out of your driveway or taking an off ramp you notice a huge difference is speculative at best. I would rather see some comparative data to back it up.
#57
What will work with the Turbonetics kit? Not fond of the price on the ARC, the VRT looks good, but it's in a diff. position and $400 or so, and this new one really got me interested til the latest posts, but the price seems great!
#58
Ok.....after further testing and hard flogging.....
I do feel a difference.....no way near a $700 ARC price kinda difference...
but prob worth the $225.00. Steering is a little tighter.
Just bolting the stainless steel brackets on top of the strut towers prob helps a good bit. I still think the bar could be a lot stiffer.
JMO
PS
If you guys want one let me know....If I get 5 people, I can do a little better than the current group buy.
I do feel a difference.....no way near a $700 ARC price kinda difference...
but prob worth the $225.00. Steering is a little tighter.
Just bolting the stainless steel brackets on top of the strut towers prob helps a good bit. I still think the bar could be a lot stiffer.
JMO
PS
If you guys want one let me know....If I get 5 people, I can do a little better than the current group buy.
Last edited by Brando; 02-27-2007 at 03:27 PM.