EPS discontinued their pcv breather kit, heres a video I found as alternative
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https://i.imgur.com/Fz3i7kL.jpg
either one of these examples i drew here, thats the only thing i can think of, other than 3 catch cans (lmao)
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If these cars were MAP controlled and not speed density then you could. ****, you could do 4 inch pipes, ITBs etc on Uprev/Ecutek
#33
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It wont. It will create an "air leak at idle" since at idle and decel is where max vacuum is created. The breather will start pulling air from the breathers, air that is not read by the MAFs.
If these cars were MAP controlled and not speed density then you could. ****, you could do 4 inch pipes, ITBs etc on Uprev/Ecutek
If these cars were MAP controlled and not speed density then you could. ****, you could do 4 inch pipes, ITBs etc on Uprev/Ecutek
https://i.imgur.com/MYDhtkk.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/Fz3i7kL.jpg
Last edited by bread; 05-27-2021 at 01:37 PM.
#34
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It wont. It will create an "air leak at idle" since at idle and decel is where max vacuum is created. The breather will start pulling air from the breathers, air that is not read by the MAFs.
If these cars were MAP controlled and not speed density then you could. ****, you could do 4 inch pipes, ITBs etc on Uprev/Ecutek
If these cars were MAP controlled and not speed density then you could. ****, you could do 4 inch pipes, ITBs etc on Uprev/Ecutek
https://www.ebay.com/itm/25483845536...oAAOSwfW1gBjmn
mimicing admins catch can breather setup, same idea, its a breather catch can to prevent pressure buildup.
https://www.administrationtuning.com...0Z-p/occhr.htm
the way his is setup, just copy the ways the tubes go, using an open ventilated catch can instead of enclosed, like i showed in the ebay listing. it would work the exact same as his setup, for about 1/5th the price
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That is an open system, you're essentially letting the crank case dump these gases in the cans by it's own pressure but do remember that these gases are lazy and that most wont evacuate on their own.
Many folks get fixated on this as they discover with more and more info how beneficial/important and hard to properly bypass it truly is and again most choose the to just remove vacuum and collect everything to CANS.
With this being said at the very end of it, individuals would have been just fine leaving the system as a Hybrid. Placing a CAN between both PCVs and leaving the breathers alone.
This also makes you understand those two intricate plastic Chambers on the Breathers.
You need to with all of this info determine what is the most important goal for you:
Not Drill expensive intakes or Not have a minuscule barely noticeable coating of oil in the intake track
Many folks get fixated on this as they discover with more and more info how beneficial/important and hard to properly bypass it truly is and again most choose the to just remove vacuum and collect everything to CANS.
With this being said at the very end of it, individuals would have been just fine leaving the system as a Hybrid. Placing a CAN between both PCVs and leaving the breathers alone.
This also makes you understand those two intricate plastic Chambers on the Breathers.
You need to with all of this info determine what is the most important goal for you:
Not Drill expensive intakes or Not have a minuscule barely noticeable coating of oil in the intake track
#36
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That is an open system, you're essentially letting the crank case dump these gases in the cans by it's own pressure but do remember that these gases are lazy and that most wont evacuate on their own.
Many folks get fixated on this as they discover with more and more info how beneficial/important and hard to properly bypass it truly is and again most choose the to just remove vacuum and collect everything to CANS.
With this being said at the very end of it, individuals would have been just fine leaving the system as a Hybrid. Placing a CAN between both PCVs and leaving the breathers alone.
This also makes you understand those two intricate plastic Chambers on the Breathers.
You need to with all of this info determine what is the most important goal for you:
Not Drill expensive intakes or Not have a minuscule barely noticeable coating of oil in the intake track
Many folks get fixated on this as they discover with more and more info how beneficial/important and hard to properly bypass it truly is and again most choose the to just remove vacuum and collect everything to CANS.
With this being said at the very end of it, individuals would have been just fine leaving the system as a Hybrid. Placing a CAN between both PCVs and leaving the breathers alone.
This also makes you understand those two intricate plastic Chambers on the Breathers.
You need to with all of this info determine what is the most important goal for you:
Not Drill expensive intakes or Not have a minuscule barely noticeable coating of oil in the intake track
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The barbs were not incorporated for a sales reason, they might disagree however here you are 3 pages deep slowly realizing this.
They could have been placed under the pipes and could have been easily capped for those who don't want to use them.
They could have been placed under the pipes and could have been easily capped for those who don't want to use them.
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i see what youre saying though
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Last thing I can think of is buying two couplers and make holes on the couples between the TBs and Intakes and come up with a system to monitor oil consumption. Then monitor and later decide if you see enough oil from those ports to justify installing barbs.
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I can’t add much to the technical discussion but do have some real world findings that I can share.
I recently added a set of ADD W1 oil catch cans to my completely factory intake system with drop in AFE dry filters and new PCV valves(2k miles old). After 1,730 miles/2 months/2 track days the cans caught about 2 oz total between the two sides.
Both catching roughly about the same amount of blow by.
I just switched to a set of Z1 intakes and will be keeping the catch cans in the same recirculating configuration.
I recently added a set of ADD W1 oil catch cans to my completely factory intake system with drop in AFE dry filters and new PCV valves(2k miles old). After 1,730 miles/2 months/2 track days the cans caught about 2 oz total between the two sides.
Both catching roughly about the same amount of blow by.
I just switched to a set of Z1 intakes and will be keeping the catch cans in the same recirculating configuration.
#41
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so far nothings happened and catch cans are empty
using sealed cans not breathers cause they wouldnt fit. talked to a few other people about it, we'll see what happens
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Post a pic of the setup
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Closing the breathers will cause seal colapse because at idle the engine will produce more vacuum.
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question, for the pcv valves, should i buy some on ebay and cut through them to be a 2 way port, or should i just leave them as is which i believe are made to be "one ways"