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Old 01-04-2012 | 12:53 PM
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gummy clutch

This morning it was in the single digits with wind chill making it colder here in New England.

The G started without issue but the clutch was VERY gummy.

Anyone else have this experience? Had the car for a year, this is the coldest its been in my possesion.
Old 01-04-2012 | 01:08 PM
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I'm in MD and with it getting so cold, I also notice my G doesn't run as nicely when first started. The clutch is a lot stiffer for me and shifting into 1st and 2nd gear can be tough....once it warms up everything seems to be fine.
Old 01-04-2012 | 01:56 PM
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I'm in MA/RI. I expected the clutch to loosen up as I drove (40 no commute) but it was still stiff. I went to repark it an hour after I got to work and it was almost normal at that point.

Good to know its not just me though.
Old 01-04-2012 | 02:18 PM
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I feel that too and I have a sedan. I think maybe a different type of clutch fluid would do better
Old 01-04-2012 | 02:24 PM
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i'm no expert here, but im pretty sure EVERY car whether it be auto or manual will not perform as well when it's so cold outside. i hope you guys are letting your cars warm up and not just starting and driving. i let my car warm up when it's this cold out for a good 10 minutes, usually takes about 1-2 engagements of the clutch for it to seem "normal"

btw, im sure this has been covered before
Old 01-04-2012 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 3Pedals
i'm no expert here, but im pretty sure EVERY car whether it be auto or manual will not perform as well when it's so cold outside. i hope you guys are letting your cars warm up and not just starting and driving. i let my car warm up when it's this cold out for a good 10 minutes, usually takes about 1-2 engagements of the clutch for it to seem "normal"

btw, im sure this has been covered before
No need to let the car idle for 10 mins. That's more for interior cabin temp and even after 10 mins, it's still not that warm. It's actually better to start the car, let it run for about 30 secs, then start driving it (not hard mind you) to bring it up to temp. With today's engines, they don't need to idle for that long before you can start driving.

The clutch will be "stiff" in most every manual car when it's cold out. It's happened with all my past vehicles (which were all manual) so there's nothing wrong with your car. Just run it easy until it's at operating temp, then you can play all you want.DOMO
Old 01-04-2012 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 3Pedals
i'm no expert here, but im pretty sure EVERY car whether it be auto or manual will not perform as well when it's so cold outside. i hope you guys are letting your cars warm up and not just starting and driving. i let my car warm up when it's this cold out for a good 10 minutes, usually takes about 1-2 engagements of the clutch for it to seem "normal"

btw, im sure this has been covered before
there isn't much use in letting your car warm up for 10 minutes. 1 minute max to let the engine come down in revs. doing more harm than good.
Old 01-05-2012 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Gon37
No need to let the car idle for 10 mins. That's more for interior cabin temp and even after 10 mins, it's still not that warm. It's actually better to start the car, let it run for about 30 secs, then start driving it (not hard mind you) to bring it up to temp. With today's engines, they don't need to idle for that long before you can start driving.
Amazing how few people realize this. Not allowing a car to sit & idle for more than 1 minute before driving was stressed to me in training 30 years ago. Some wives tales just won't die.
Old 01-05-2012 | 12:43 PM
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I let my car warm up for about 3 mins before I start driving it....and then still drive it slow and soft until the little temp gauge gets close to the halfway mark.....still tho, my clutch and gears are tough probably for at least the first 10 minutes of driving....guess it was just *really* cold LOL

Originally Posted by Kirkules
Amazing how few people realize this. Not allowing a car to sit & idle for more than 1 minute before driving was stressed to me in training 30 years ago. Some wives tales just won't die.
Old 01-05-2012 | 01:13 PM
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Recall that the manual trans is bathed in gear lube.. 75w85 or 75w90. That's some pretty thick stuff when cold. I can't say I notice much difference in clutch action when cold vs hot (as far as pedal feel goes).
Old 02-19-2012 | 09:50 AM
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You do know that wind chill has no effect on machinery right?
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Originally Posted by mtrsprt
You do know that wind chill has no effect on machinery right?


But yea... I also hate the way the clutch feels when the temperature outside is in the teens. It just feels like it doesn't spring right back up.
Old 02-19-2012 | 11:37 AM
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one day it was so cold here and the G barely started,,,it was so hard to push in the clutch and when i did i took x3-4 time longer to comeback so i let the trans warm up for 5-10 mins and it was all good.
never left the car out in extreme cold again im talking -20F
Old 02-19-2012 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirkules
Amazing how few people realize this. Not allowing a car to sit & idle for more than 1 minute before driving was stressed to me in training 30 years ago. Some wives tales just won't die.
I remember the manual in my 93 bimmer saying DON'T LET THE CAR SIT IN IDLE TOO LONG!

The only waiting I do in my G is for the revs to come down after starting it. If I don't, it'll tend to jump when I go into gear.
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