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Old 03-07-2011, 11:25 PM
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AWD > 2wd with snow tires. Until you drive in 30+ cm of snow like i have to each winter, you wont realize how important AWD really is when it comes to snow.
Old 03-08-2011, 12:39 AM
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^Steve, you have noidea the s*** i have to deal with in my S, if i have VDC on, it will just kick in every time i try to get it moving, the result of that is 0 acceleration. So i have to turn VDC off, and the result of that is rear wheel spinning like crazy and i get somewhere while drifting thru every corner i take.
But i must admit, it's a lot of fun when i get it right, but sometimes it can get a bit hairy.
If there is snow around when we meet i will take you out for a ride in my S, and you can experience what it's like to drift thru corners on the streets
Old 03-08-2011, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike
Yup, snow tires + 2wd > AWD + non-snow tires, in the snow, period.
Disagree 100%

I've owned AWD vehicles with all-season tires that were MUCH better than a 2WD car with snow tires.

Today's snow tires are fantastic, but having two of them on the drive wheels of a 2WD car isn't as good as having four decent all-season tires on a good AWD system. Not even close.
Old 03-08-2011, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike
EHP tires crack in cold weather, as do slicks. I've tried EHP on snow. Guess what, I cracked 2 tires (as well as having no grip).

DCCD was in permanent 50/50 for obvious reasons.

All seasons, are by nature, a compromise.
Boy, you have more problems cracking things than anyone I know. If you're not cracking rotors, you're cracking tires. LOL.

Next thing you'll tell us is that you cracked two engine blocks. Or maybe two cylinder heads.
Old 03-08-2011, 08:31 AM
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I thought this was a power train thread. I learned more about cloverleaf speeds and snow tires. LOL!
Old 03-08-2011, 10:34 AM
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I think I found a good solution.... RWD G37S (6MT) + AWD Audi Q7 = Best of both worlds. I have a good option for hauling crap and bad weather, and a fun practical car to drive the rest of the time.
Old 03-08-2011, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MSCA
Boy, you have more problems cracking things than anyone I know. If you're not cracking rotors, you're cracking tires. LOL.

Next thing you'll tell us is that you cracked two engine blocks. Or maybe two cylinder heads.
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Old 03-08-2011, 12:14 PM
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holly s*** what did you do to make that happen???
Old 03-08-2011, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by theaudir8fan
holly s*** what did you do to make that happen???
This actually brings the thread semi back on topic.

It was from running at the track, Auto Club Speedway to be exact in the Roval configuration, which includes turns 1 and 2 on the banked oval, which I take at roughly 125-130.

Here's some semi melted brake pad to go with it.

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Old 03-08-2011, 01:26 PM
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LOL

Mike is hard on everything he owns. The pictures prove it.
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Those pads pictured above have a fade point of "2000+". I'm not sure how far past that you have to go to actually get the pads to do what I did. I still need brake ducts. For reference, Project Mu B-Force pads are rated fade resistant up to about 930 degrees.

I buy my cars to drive them. I also maintain them in accordance with how they're driven. If you haven't encountered such problems on track in your M3, then you're not driving fast enough. This was all done with far less hp than a G37.


I'm still waiting to see what the OP has to say about taking a cloverleaf onramp at 90-100. He never mentioned units, and I'll be disappointed if he says 90-100 kph.
Old 03-08-2011, 01:48 PM
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Hey Mike, what kind of car do you have? Melting pads and breaking rotors is pretty impressive. I don't think the OP was doing 100MPH in a cloverleaf.
Old 03-08-2011, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 180Custom
Aside from the fact that you live in CA, you're speaking so highly of something you don't know much about.
I live in CA and I go skiing in the winter, in CALIFORNIA. It's somewhere called Tahoe, and if you go there, you'll find that most visitors drive from the San Francisco Bay Area, a place where it typically doesn't snow.

Also, the fact that I live in CA now tells you little about my driving history. Maybe I used to live in Alaska? (I didn't, but I used to live in Canada).
Old 03-08-2011, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike
I'm still waiting to see what the OP has to say about taking a cloverleaf onramp at 90-100. He never mentioned units, and I'll be disappointed if he says 90-100 kph.
He did use MPH in the OP.
He had a chance to correct that when I first "questioned" him on it, with a pic of a typical cloverleaf to be sure we were talking about the same type of corner. He has not been logged in since a little while after the other posts started coming in questioning his claimed speed on cloverleafs.
shoggy, don't you dare try to now say that you were talking about Kilometers Per Mile.

Originally Posted by shoggy
I personally like the fwd bias because when your on clover leafs at 125mph and start to under steer off the ramp the rear tires would kick in giving the little extra oversteer to keep the car turning instead of shooting straight off the road. If that is not enough then you can trail break it and save yourself with ease.
I hope you guys don't get this thread locked like the other one, shoggy would probably like that now.
Old 03-08-2011, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Chico
Hey Mike, what kind of car do you have? Melting pads and breaking rotors is pretty impressive. I don't think the OP was doing 100MPH in a cloverleaf.
He drives a white s2k cr


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