ATTESA VS Quattro (ATTESA haters learn your powertrains)
#17
Personally, I'd take the Quattro system in the A5 (which is RWD biased 60/40, IIRC) over the Nissan system.
Here's an excellent video on Audi's system:
YouTube - Audi: The quattro principle
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Ehem
All I know is that I hate AWD period. I have the B8 S4, and came to realize that AWD doesn't suite my driving preference. I want my RWD 10 6mt sedan back![Frown](https://www.myg37.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
As for AWD in the snow, unless you have snow tires, or brand new all seasons, the type of AWD your car has makes 0 difference. Doesn't make any fawking difference that my Quattro S4 comes with summer tires, so it's useless in the snow lol
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All I know is that I hate AWD period. I have the B8 S4, and came to realize that AWD doesn't suite my driving preference. I want my RWD 10 6mt sedan back
![Frown](https://www.myg37.com/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
As for AWD in the snow, unless you have snow tires, or brand new all seasons, the type of AWD your car has makes 0 difference. Doesn't make any fawking difference that my Quattro S4 comes with summer tires, so it's useless in the snow lol
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#20
^ sorry i totally disagree, clearly you don't live in heavy snow areas, where outside temp can drop to -30C, In the snow and ice, my mom's venza out do my my car easily. I have conti extreme winter contact on my car, the venza is just on some michellen all seasons. the venza get so much better traction off the line, while my slip light just blinks at me and i don't get anywhere or i turn VDC off and spin my wheels
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Snow tires help but RWD with wide tires is the worst combo for snow driving. I think Mike is thinking FWD when he wrote 2WD. I think the problem with sporty cars is that they come with really wide tires and wheels.
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But typical RWD cars (like G37) come with relatively wide rims, so having snow tires on the stock rims is not going to provide much snow traction, especially from a stop, for a RWD car.
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I get what you're trying to say, but at the end of the day... the widest rim you'll find on a Infiniti is 9" wide, which will accommodate a 225-255 tire without a problem.
From personal experience, about 90% of the G drivers from the Tri-State (NY, NJ, PA) who buy winter tires, install them on stock rims, and summer tires for their aftermarket wheels. Winter tires come in various widths to go along with every stock production wheel that's out there (obv aside from Super Sports cars).
#27
Now if it's FWD, it's a completely different story. I thought you were referring to RWD with a relatively high power engine.
But in anycase, 4WD helps in these situations a lot. My friend's G37xS doesn't have any of the issues that i have.
But in anycase, 4WD helps in these situations a lot. My friend's G37xS doesn't have any of the issues that i have.
#28
^ sorry i totally disagree, clearly you don't live in heavy snow areas, where outside temp can drop to -30C, In the snow and ice, my mom's venza out do my my car easily. I have conti extreme winter contact on my car, the venza is just on some michellen all seasons. the venza get so much better traction off the line, while my slip light just blinks at me and i don't get anywhere or i turn VDC off and spin my wheels
Now that I've made bold claims, I will clarify some. Any like car with snow tires will stop better in the snow than it's all-season counterpart, regardless of how many wheels drive the car. As we know, on like cars, awd actually hurts stopping distance since it adds weight if anything. Getting going on the other hand, awd with all-seasons will easily outmatch 2wd with snows (especially rwd).
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I'll also agree with your disagreement. Our AWD cars with all-season tires will do MUCH better in the snow than 2WD cars with snows. Tires help big time, but there is no substitute for awd. Comparing a corolla with snows to an sti with either summer tires or uhp all-seasons is not an accurate comparison (and I'd bet the sti was still better if the DCCD was properly managed).
Now that I've made bold claims, I will clarify some. Any like car with snow tires will stop better in the snow than it's all-season counterpart, regardless of how many wheels drive the car. As we know, on like cars, awd actually hurts stopping distance since it adds weight if anything. Getting going on the other hand, awd with all-seasons will easily outmatch 2wd with snows (especially rwd).
Now that I've made bold claims, I will clarify some. Any like car with snow tires will stop better in the snow than it's all-season counterpart, regardless of how many wheels drive the car. As we know, on like cars, awd actually hurts stopping distance since it adds weight if anything. Getting going on the other hand, awd with all-seasons will easily outmatch 2wd with snows (especially rwd).
DCCD was in permanent 50/50 for obvious reasons.
All seasons, are by nature, a compromise.
#30
Agreed! Performance tires like that don't belong on the snow. Snow tires are best, especially when paired with AWD.
My subaru did better in the snow, but the ATTESA is a lot more fun year round.
My subaru did better in the snow, but the ATTESA is a lot more fun year round.