Review Stillen SC, Tranny Cooler and Exhaust Install
01-06-2011, 09:51 PM
#158
alright, i'm home!
first off, the car was dropped off perfectly fine with no DETONATION whatsoever!
the detonation is noticed right after the kit got installed. yes, my dealer did perform a warranty work right after the kit is installed because they've noticed that the vvel wasn't functioning properly. after they tear down the front timing cover and i was told by the tech only the timing cover gasket was torn and everything else is perfectly fine but they did replaced a lot of stuff in there. so what if they warrantied the parts inside there are you guys saying that my dealer is incompetent in working on the vvel. it could've very well been your crappy tunes that broked it in the first place.
okay, so after everything got fixed and i was sent home. the car pulls like crazy especially on the higher rpm's and i thought i was happy but i was wrong. for some unknown reasons after a 30-40min drive the car will lose some power and you can hear this hammering sound coming from the engine when i accelerate and of course i knew that was detonation. even tho i told them that i'm having these symptoms they didn't do anything at the time. then a week or 2 flies by they had found out that this pulley was making too much boost and needed to revise the pulley to an actual 8psi pulley and they'll have to detune the car till they get the new pulley in. i go in and get detuned, after that my car isn't driveable at all. there were hesitation when you gas, everything was getting super hot under the engine bay, it was all bad. i then called up Josh@Stillen and told them what was the problem and why it isn't driveable? he's unsure of the problem and all the tech's are gone home already so he wasn't able to help. that's when i told him that i'll bring the car down to their facility and fix whatever they need to and get me running. that was the first time i went down there. okay, we went down there and got tuned finally but even then i still had that clicking noise upon driving off and the only way to get that noise gone is to rev up the rpm to about 1.8k-2k. the head tech even tried and bump up the rpm just to get that noise away. little did i know that noise is detonation, an VQ expert told me that. plus i never had that before the kit. (i hardly have any now since the special weiboy tune)drove home and the first time me and my friend noticed is the rpm is all over the place and sometimes stall out upon coming to a stop sign, i didn't complain much about that since it's really not a big of a deal that's y you haven't heard much about it but Josh should know since i've been talking to him only. he may forget, doesn't matter! i did tell him and not making this ish up like you're saying that i am.
whatever! i'll skip it to part where you said you guys were so nice to have fly down just to pick up my car.
that time i received a new tune from you guys. (R6) flashed it, car had lot's of power down low but sucked up top. i took it out to Z Car Garage and got it dyno'ed. car only made this much power with lot's of detonation.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/55532013@N03/5147353335/" title="stillen2 by weiboy718, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1386/5147353335_0ed3f4ce06.jpg" width="500" height="398" alt="stillen2" /></a>
at that time you guys were suppose to be bringing in another car from another member but somehow that didn't happened so that's when you guys wanted my car and i agreed to it and that you would fly down here to pick it up and drive back to my door which did not happened. i did not request you guys to do this. you had asked and i agreed so of course you gotta pay for everything. at that time i was not using R8! i was on R6 which gave out detonation even on the high end. i still have that datalog if anybody is interested in looking at lol. so the trip went fine and my power bumped from 377whp back to 410! wow! really! just a simple trip back down there got me 30whp more lol. the dyno sheet i got from them isn't even on the date that my car was there lol. got home, the tune still got some tip in detonation especially on hot days! the car will get heat soaked after being stucked in traffic and can get completely undriveable at all. this one time i almost got stuck on a hill when the car kept on jerking and even on 1st gear it had a hard time climbing it like the engine was choking on something. the morning drives is perfect tho. got good power and everything with no detonation. so how do you explain that? detonation is much more noticeable when it's hot but not when it's cold.
in the beginning your customer service is so good that i was praising you guys like god even tho there is problems with the kit or tunes. i chose to ignore that and had even defended you guys from other people. that was dumb! i'm pretty sure there are other people who is having the same symptom as me. let me dig it up on the370!
[Well here goes; The first thing I noticed was that the tip-in knock that I was] [experiencing was gone. The power is down a bit below 3K rpm and I presume it's] [because they removed timing down low to eliminate the tip-in knock.]
see! i'm not the only one here with tip in detonation. my tip in detonation is gone also but there's just no power then what's the point of having this kit? it's crap and i can't wait to get it off my car which is schedule to be removed this month by ***. till then Stillen can say that my car is the main source for all the problems. i can't wait to get it all done just so you guys can shut up and accept the fact that your kit and tunes is the problem and stop blaming it on other people's car's.
first off, the car was dropped off perfectly fine with no DETONATION whatsoever!
the detonation is noticed right after the kit got installed. yes, my dealer did perform a warranty work right after the kit is installed because they've noticed that the vvel wasn't functioning properly. after they tear down the front timing cover and i was told by the tech only the timing cover gasket was torn and everything else is perfectly fine but they did replaced a lot of stuff in there. so what if they warrantied the parts inside there are you guys saying that my dealer is incompetent in working on the vvel. it could've very well been your crappy tunes that broked it in the first place.
okay, so after everything got fixed and i was sent home. the car pulls like crazy especially on the higher rpm's and i thought i was happy but i was wrong. for some unknown reasons after a 30-40min drive the car will lose some power and you can hear this hammering sound coming from the engine when i accelerate and of course i knew that was detonation. even tho i told them that i'm having these symptoms they didn't do anything at the time. then a week or 2 flies by they had found out that this pulley was making too much boost and needed to revise the pulley to an actual 8psi pulley and they'll have to detune the car till they get the new pulley in. i go in and get detuned, after that my car isn't driveable at all. there were hesitation when you gas, everything was getting super hot under the engine bay, it was all bad. i then called up Josh@Stillen and told them what was the problem and why it isn't driveable? he's unsure of the problem and all the tech's are gone home already so he wasn't able to help. that's when i told him that i'll bring the car down to their facility and fix whatever they need to and get me running. that was the first time i went down there. okay, we went down there and got tuned finally but even then i still had that clicking noise upon driving off and the only way to get that noise gone is to rev up the rpm to about 1.8k-2k. the head tech even tried and bump up the rpm just to get that noise away. little did i know that noise is detonation, an VQ expert told me that. plus i never had that before the kit. (i hardly have any now since the special weiboy tune)drove home and the first time me and my friend noticed is the rpm is all over the place and sometimes stall out upon coming to a stop sign, i didn't complain much about that since it's really not a big of a deal that's y you haven't heard much about it but Josh should know since i've been talking to him only. he may forget, doesn't matter! i did tell him and not making this ish up like you're saying that i am.
whatever! i'll skip it to part where you said you guys were so nice to have fly down just to pick up my car.
that time i received a new tune from you guys. (R6) flashed it, car had lot's of power down low but sucked up top. i took it out to Z Car Garage and got it dyno'ed. car only made this much power with lot's of detonation.
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/55532013@N03/5147353335/" title="stillen2 by weiboy718, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1386/5147353335_0ed3f4ce06.jpg" width="500" height="398" alt="stillen2" /></a>
at that time you guys were suppose to be bringing in another car from another member but somehow that didn't happened so that's when you guys wanted my car and i agreed to it and that you would fly down here to pick it up and drive back to my door which did not happened. i did not request you guys to do this. you had asked and i agreed so of course you gotta pay for everything. at that time i was not using R8! i was on R6 which gave out detonation even on the high end. i still have that datalog if anybody is interested in looking at lol. so the trip went fine and my power bumped from 377whp back to 410! wow! really! just a simple trip back down there got me 30whp more lol. the dyno sheet i got from them isn't even on the date that my car was there lol. got home, the tune still got some tip in detonation especially on hot days! the car will get heat soaked after being stucked in traffic and can get completely undriveable at all. this one time i almost got stuck on a hill when the car kept on jerking and even on 1st gear it had a hard time climbing it like the engine was choking on something. the morning drives is perfect tho. got good power and everything with no detonation. so how do you explain that? detonation is much more noticeable when it's hot but not when it's cold.
in the beginning your customer service is so good that i was praising you guys like god even tho there is problems with the kit or tunes. i chose to ignore that and had even defended you guys from other people. that was dumb! i'm pretty sure there are other people who is having the same symptom as me. let me dig it up on the370!
[Well here goes; The first thing I noticed was that the tip-in knock that I was] [experiencing was gone. The power is down a bit below 3K rpm and I presume it's] [because they removed timing down low to eliminate the tip-in knock.]
see! i'm not the only one here with tip in detonation. my tip in detonation is gone also but there's just no power then what's the point of having this kit? it's crap and i can't wait to get it off my car which is schedule to be removed this month by ***. till then Stillen can say that my car is the main source for all the problems. i can't wait to get it all done just so you guys can shut up and accept the fact that your kit and tunes is the problem and stop blaming it on other people's car's.
01-06-2011, 10:03 PM
#162
Give it another month or so.... LOL
By that time Eric will have his new kit and be making 400+ WHP the way his should with no problems....
DAMN Eric, car can't even climb a hill, you're screwed, what good is that when you live in San Fran?... hahahaha
By that time Eric will have his new kit and be making 400+ WHP the way his should with no problems....
DAMN Eric, car can't even climb a hill, you're screwed, what good is that when you live in San Fran?... hahahaha
01-06-2011, 11:45 PM
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I feel there is no need for them to reply. The kit didn't work for you. They said what they think is right and you said what you had to say. Now it is a he said she said and people interested in there kits need to do research and make a decision for them selfs on what they think is the truth. I know you provided facts to support your argument and that is what was needed. I am neither against stillen nor for them. If I was in the market for a s/c I know which one I would buy after reading everything but since I am not that I will keep my opinion to my self. I think the part that drove weiboy over the edge was the lack of support stillen was giving when he was trying to sell his kit. Also stillen told protential buyers that called them they were better off not buying weiboys and to buy a new one from them. This Kyle I want to know why would your company do that? He was calm and discrete not bad mouthing or anything really just wanted to sell the kit since it wasn't working for him? I say your company because you are directly responsible for the workers you have on pay role. Please can you share with us on hy they did this. Maybe your point of view on this will help clarify because to be honest I think that is a ****ty way to do a customer. Thanks
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