Originally Posted by matchan

Time for a 12?

Originally Posted by Chris11LE

If they designed it to be downright dangerous, they should pay for it in more ways than one.

Im going to go out on a limb and say they didnt "re-design" it because of a vocal few on this forum. There were actual issues (including that "in limbo" lag that could have caused an accident) that Infiniti knew about at some point, and they've at least attempted to fix it.

To me design is the transmission as a whole. Software + hardware. I think the DESIGN is OK. I think they failed in their IMPLEMENTATION, and are trying to correct that failure.

Originally Posted by Almatti

matchan, That statement could very well be part of the Lag" (excuse the Pun Please), the 09ers are feeling the "Fix".... Car makers Think of Everything - like a 3 year life based on leases coming due for 09 Leases. But on the other hand, would a displeased 09 owner go into a new 2012 ??? I would bet that the Fix will be issued for the 09 Gs....I posted earlier: Keep emailing and calling Infiniti Consumer Affairs and your dealers. This TSB only came out May 15th. The M owners are waiting too.

Originally Posted by harp00n

Btw, does this new fix include coupes or not?

Originally Posted by Almatti

The change in the car gives you a new positive feeling :

Originally Posted by matchan

Went for a drive again this morning. Felt like a kid driving a race car for the first time. Had a big grin on my face. All this at street legal speeds - the mellow engine and torque available at lower rpm changes the character of the car.

Originally Posted by matchan

Wife went to some party today and I insisted she take my car so she could experience the superlative driving characteristics for herself... Hope she does not try to keep the car for herself!

Originally Posted by matchan

Yes, there is a difference between the 2010 & 2012. I drove the 2012 extensively for the past 3 days almost 100 miles/day just to get the feel. The 2012 has less hesitation than the 2010. Thats the only difference

So if you are a disconcerting driver, and you drive them one after another , you will be able to tell the difference. However, the difference is not large enough to "feel remorse" over. The update to the 2010 is so huge and so close to the 2012 that you dont feel left out.

Thats just natural evolution. Even with no visible changes, some things usually become better - maybe they used a different vendor for tranny parts , maybe there is a sub version of the TSB that 2010 wont get , maybe there is a subtle hardware difference that is not published etc.

Either way, be happy Infiniti has done something for 2010-11 owners and not washed their hands off. Can they do more ? Absolutely. But they made me very happy with this TSB. Hope the 09'ers get the update sometime soon

Originally Posted by mikeb2004

I agree - it's great now in my opinion. Good enough that I don't care to sweat the subtleties any further. In fact am 100% comfortable with a new model year being "better" than my previous model year. All I was looking for was correcting the defects. It's a great performing transmission now, comparable to the competition, not as good in some ways perhaps, but better in other ways I think. Doesn't have to be an exact carbon copy of 2012, even though it feels too close to call, to me. They are not obligated to make it exactly like a 12. They are only obligated to make it work properly, which it does now.



Yes, we can certainly agree to disagree about how well the transmission works, that is subjective of course and open to debate...

I'm going to be analytical about infiniti's statement in their email, just because I deal with this sort of language all the time. I think maybe you're reading too far into that sentence. If you hang around with lawyers a lot, you will find that they always make statements like this. These statements are expressly for the purpose of clarifying that nothing in fact was or is being said. It's very typical language to disclaim liability. It is intended to say, "we are not saying what you just implied we might be saying". There's nothing in that statement that should lead one to conclude "it is definitely different from 2012". Sure, it could be different. I'm not disputing that opinion. It only means that they are not promising 2012 behavior. Implying or promising ANYthing leads to liability, and they know that anything they say will be posted publicly in a forum. They want to clarify that nothing is implied. They do not want liability. This is VERY typical legalese in my experience.

Now on the other hand, I have spoken to someone who does not spout legalese: My technician says only software has changed. The infiniti techs seem to know what they are talking about (in my experience). The service advisers are as clueless as always. I am more inclined to believe the technician on this one. It's not a certainty that he is right nor truthful, but it is far more likely that this information is useful, than some legalese C.Y.A. B.S. that we've been hearing from day 1 from folks with no technical training whatsoever.

Like I said I am being analytical about this because I deal with it frequently. PLEASE take my paragraph with a grain of salt, as it is not intended to be anything personal, just my own experience with folks who spew this language all the time. When I call them out on it and inquire further, they usually explain that the statement is actually a NONstatement. It drives me nuts

Anyway as I said above, I am at the point where I find the 7AT very satisfying, and no longer want to get rid of the car now. It's comparable to others, so I don't regret the purchase anymore. Hopefully most people will be happy with this transmission now (for their sake, and for Infinitis reputation, I HOPE so!) Automatics in all brands seem to be getting more "character" shall we say, some of it can be odd at times. This trans was far too buggy for a bit too long for my taste. Similarly, I really hope for everyone's sake that Infiniti gets the 09's straightened out soon!!

Originally Posted by CodeG

I took my 09 in for trans fluid change (routine maintenance). Dealer said there is a new re flash just came out for the trans. Hollycow, I still have goosebumps after a drive. It felt like a new car, no hesitation, no rubber band, no jerks, just acceleration. I am thrilled.