Originally Posted by G37Sam

In that case, you're better off with a stage 1 kit and stock internals (400-500whp)

Will cost way more than 15k to hit the 700whp mark safely

Originally Posted by dainjarouz

i wonder how many paper routes....nevermind LOL

Originally Posted by Dmac324

thats fine, as i said 600-700 eventually. but like i mentioned above, what are your thoughts on a CAI, exhaust, and a good nitrous set up (100 shot or so) all with a good tune to wrap it up?

Originally Posted by G37Sam

I'm not a big fan of nitrous setups to be honest, but that's my personal opinion

Originally Posted by Ivoidwarranties

For that much horsepower, you are going to have to sweet talk daddy a lot.

I'm just going to brainstorm here.
At least $6000 for a base supercharger system.
Probably $2000+ in supercharger upgrades.
$3000+ for parts for a built shortblock.
Probably $1500-$2000 for labor assembling the bottom end.
Another $1500 easy for a custom exhaust that can flow that much air.
Somebody has to tune that new combo and that will cost anywhere from $500-$1500 depending on who and how long and if there are any issues.
I can think of another grand or two I would spend just in the sensors and gauges I'd need to monitor the system.

So, let's say you spent 15 grand and have 600-700hp... Little side note for you, there are a couple G37's/370Z's that have spent over $25K and still haven't made it to the 600hp mark. Anyway, let's say you do end up with 600-700hp, now what? You need a new clutch or a lot of transmission work to handle that power. If you have an auto, GTM makes a stage 3 tranny good for 600hp and it will only cost you $4600. That is, if you have that type of transmission. If not, back to the drawing board. What about the differential? The stock lsd is crap from the factory and the cheapest decent alternative is a grand (the good ones cost a lot more than that). How about those half-shafts? I know someone makes those custom because I've asked about them before. I was also told if you have to ask for the price you can't afford them. I hope I'm wrong there.

But then there is the good chance I have no idea what I'm talking about. I'm wrong all the time. I'd love for someone to hit 600+hp (driveable and reliable) for a third the cost I think it will take, say... 10 grand. I'd drop that dime in a heartbeat.

Originally Posted by Mike

Lets not forget the oh-**** fund and of course all the supporting mods

With that much power, I'd say a 40k budget isn't unrealistic.

Originally Posted by Ivoidwarranties

Exactly! I was thinking 30k at the least, on a good day, with me doing most of the work. I didn't add any labor in my first post other than the short block.



Listen kid (not being disrespectful, I call everyone at work "kid" even guys 20 years my senior), if you're 16 years old and drive around in a $40k car... I'm going to play the daddy card. That's not necessarily a bad thing. I wish my dad would have done that, but instead he made me get a job when I was 15, and then I had two jobs at 16-18 just to pay for my $6000 Mustang. The nice thing was he let me drive his turbochargered 500hp Mustang GT just about whenever I wanted. I don't know what the hell he was thinking.

If you want to entertain the idea of nitrous, you have to know that the intake plenium is going to work against you. The raised passages, the deep wells, the dual inlets, the valleys... the whole thing works against you. I love N2O and I think I've come up with a pretty trick way to make it work but I'm holding on to that for a rainy day.

Originally Posted by Dmac324

Fair enough, but i didnt get it brand new either. But, from doing some digging and reading, it seems like there are a few people who have gotten it to work.

Originally Posted by Ivoidwarranties

Gotten what to work? The nitrous or the 600-700hp? Nitrous can be installed and work. But doing it right and reliable is another thing. A wet system running through the stock plenium is very susceptible to a thing called "puddling" (google it, you can read for hours about it if you want to). Even a 75-100 shot is risky with this plenium design.

Originally Posted by Dmac324

haha i was talking about the nitrous working, and yes i know what puddling is. does getting a CAI (like the stillen gen 3) replace the stock plenium? (could be a noob question, but thats what i am so be it)

Originally Posted by Kverdina

Lol. It was a noob question, but it's ok cause I see you just joined.

Anyway, to answer you, stillen gen3 does not change the stock plenum at all. Only adds cai piping and routes the filter to the front grille of the car. As far as I know at the moment there are no aftermarket plenums( they're in the works, though I could be wrong).

I've been reading through this thread and see you are interested in making a lot of power. I say good luck and hope you are able to make it into a beast.

Originally Posted by G37Sam

Well you need to keep in mind, Nitrous shots will make you happy for a few seconds but then you're back to stock

Originally Posted by DmfG37sTT

That setup wont get you near enough power your seeking for. I would do alot more research before doing anything. Im with g37sam, Its not my thing and I dont feel its a safe way to make power.

Originally Posted by DmfG37sTT

That setup wont get you near enough power your seeking for. I would do alot more research before doing anything. Im with g37sam, Its not my thing and I dont feel its a safe way to make power.