1. Performance... With only the numbers given by the manufactures to go by right now, there is not enough information. I say that because no one has installed one of these kits and went and had it dyno'ed by an independant shop. Once these kits are out and putting solid numbers down, then I'll start comparing the numbers. And numbers mean very little to me. I want to see the graph. The area under the curve is what matters in a street car not peak hp (more important is the torque).

2. Price... After the price of the kit,then there's the install (if applicable), then to do it right the supporting parts, gauges, coolers, shift kit or clutch and so on. When all said and done, there is not a big difference in price between the two kits. After spending at least $7000 to $8000, the price difference between the two shouldn't be as big an influence at this point.

3. Name brand... doesn't mean anything to me.

4. Customer Service/Reputation... oh boy... this is where the interent can do as much harm as good. I'm choosing to pass on this one for now.

5. Warranty options... Not a big factor to me. I like the idea of them standing up to their parts and replacing those if needed but I don't think they will warranty the engine and that is the most likely problem area. I understand I am taking a risk by boosting the engine and I believe I am the one who is ultimately responsible in the end.

6. Reliability... This will become a huge factor in the future after the kits have hit the market and miles are put on the vehicles. The saying, "time will tell", works real well here. As for the pieces used, Vortech has been around for as long as I can remember and is proven. I've never heard of Rotrex until word of this kit came out last year.

7. Aesthetics (Looks/Sound)... This is subjective and everyone is entitled to their opinion. Personally, I hate the stock look, especially if I've paid big money for a very rare mod. And I hate plastic engine covers. Also, I want to hear the supercharger.

8. Have other parts by company already on car... not a factor to me.

The more and more I research and the more I discuss these things, the clearer the picture becomes to me. As far as what I would do right now that is. The sooner these kits hit the market the better. Then there will be more information to work with and that should help people (including me) make educated decisions.

 

i'll do some dyno runs after it's installed.

 

For whatever it's worth, Koenigseggs use two Rotrex blowers at about 20 psi... 23psi in the case of the CCX-R

 

Admin Edit: What on earth is your problem? Your flaming is totally uncalled for! Everyone has his own opinion and everyone is allowed to share, if you can't live with that then maybe you shouldn't be on a forum.

 

You are an angry angry little man aren't you. I provided input to each and every reason you listed after you edited your original post giving you a rundown of what is going through not only my head but others as well. But instead of taking it as information of use, you instead take it as a critique and insult. If you want opinions then don't ask for them.

My input was more for everyone else anyway because we all know you already had your mind made up before you started this thread.

 

Where's that "getting my popcorn" smiley?

 

and for what it's worth IVoid knows his stuff and is just trying to voice his opinion and help everyone understand all the different options.

 

Do nutswingers and fan boys count as a reason for not liking a certian kit?

I am actually serious, one of my biggest reasons for going with Stillen is people like OMG37.

 

I love how my post gets edited for flaming but yours doesn't.

BTW...that's a real good reason to pick one kit over another. Good job!

 

^ Truth. This isnt SC related or car related, but on other boards there are some fanboys who were just ****heads to everyone and nuthugged a product so much, that I actually choose not to buy that product just because of the jackass who loves it. Im sure he had good intentions, but he would always bash other peoples opinions of equivalent OR BETTER products and wouldnt be able to back his bashing up with evidence why they were inferior. And there was nothing wrong with the product he liked, it actually was a good product, just whenever I thought of it, I associated it with him. So if there was an equivalent product out there, I always went with the other choice.

I actually felt bad for the vendor, because he would start a GB thread and then the nuthugger would be the first person to respond in the thread with something like "x product sucks, this one rules, anyone who doesnt buy this is a moron!".............. and that would be the end of the GB thread for me.

Disclaimer: Now Im not stating an opinion on anyone here, and I havent posted enough to know about anyone nor does anyone on this forum bother me, but I would believe that reasoning from my past experience.

Phew. I was actually about to do the same thing Ivoidwarranties did. Break it down aspect by aspect and I was going to add additional pros and cons. I thought it would be helpful for people to see for this aspect, why they think one is better than the other rather than just an overall answer.

Mike did a great job in the other thread breaking it down aspect by aspect.

For some people, warranty might be important, for others, not so much so it would be helpful to see if when someone made their decision, if warranty was a factor in their decision or not. If it was a close decision, I'd like to know aspect by aspect what people thought.

People are usually looking for the most detail if possible when deciding between FI. I think a simple 1 sentence on why people are choosing 1 kit over the others will not be beneficial to people who want to learn more about the kits and want more information to help them make a decision.

"I choose GTM because it rocks" or "I choose stillen because I have their gen 3 intakes" doesnt do jack squat in helping people get more information on kits. It just tells me that that person really doesnt know the ins and outs of either kit and I should ignore his opinion.

 

FYI, I've never questioned his knowledge...just the way he voices his opinion.

 

Yours got edited b/c you were attacking someone for helping.

You didn't provide anything helpful by flaming Ivoid, so in saying something about it Buddiee doesn't need to be edited.

 

Mike, thanks for the input. I did not know they were used by Koenigseggs.

Thanks Hi-speed.

WhosUrBuddiee, yes it does count and philter25 did a great job of explaining why.

philter25, I for one would like to hear your opinion broken down aspect by aspect. OMG37 did a good job of listing a lot of the things to consider and can be used as a great way to organize your thoughts. I just think he was under the impression I was moching or critiquing him and took offense (I don't think he likes me). For the record, I wasn't moching him. It's a good list and I put a lot of time, thought and effort into my response. Did anyone else see it as being an attack or offensive?

 

So back on topic. I am getting the GTM stage 2

 

can't we all get alone?