WhosUrBuddiee

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I know the trade off for supercharger and turbos but beleive that is only for people who really plan on pushing their car. Maybe I am different but I am not going to beat on it. It will mostly sit covered unless there is a meet/show/ect.
I want a supercharger because of the ease of install (doing it myself), lower cost, and I dont want to be bothered with all the issues of turbos (cool down, baking, header install, ect). I remember when you did your DIY, one of you biggest issues was dealing with the headers.
There is almost nothing that would sway me to a TT set up (aside from being free). I am ordering a supercharger, just dont know which one yet.

(Again, these are my personal opinions and concerns)

Modme

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Of course you're right. Turbos is a pita to install. But I just wanted to point out some facts for everyone to consider. Many people in the past have asked what is a safe limit for our stock engine, and the answer has always been around 500whp. However, one has to consider that a turboed car is making about 575 hp at the crank to produce 500whp. But for a supercharged 500whp car, the engine might have to generate 676 hp at the crank. The wear and tear will obviously be different.

Dont be misled by only looking at whp.

Modme

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Actually,

Here is the thread with stage 1 turbos:

5.5 psi 450wbp

https://www.myg37.com/forums/engine-...-338-rwtq.html

G37Sam

That's a first? What makes you say that?

G37Sam

That's very weird out of a stage 1, they did some other car with a stage 2 and at 9 psi that also made around 450whp



https://www.myg37.com/forums/engine-...p-428rwtq.html

Buddy Revell

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A two-hour install time difference will probably run about $200-250. Considering the $900 difference on the kits themselves, you'll still have extra cash for important supporting mods like an oil cooler and gauges.

Sam@GTM

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Not to add confusion, here is a dyno graph with stage one, MT or AT, with and withou boost controller and of course the gas all will make huge difference in the outcome but this will show at least what stage 1 can do .

Sam

Modme

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Check out the article I posted on page 4.

G37Sam

You're saying the TT doesn't? Which also requires some of the engines power

I read that article you posted and agree with it, but what you were saying is that a TT would see less bhp for the same whp which I don't agree with. Only drop in hp between those two is due to transmission losses and the supercharger kit has no intervention in that.

WhosUrBuddiee

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I know TT can make alot more power, but that is not a route I want to even consider for myself.

At this point it is either GTM SC or Stillen SC

Modme

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A supercharger uses more hp to power than turbos. How do you explain the fact that turboed engine produces 450whp at 6 psi, but it takes 8 psi for superchargers?

daveinli

Stillen was supposed to buy back the Gen 3 CAI's. so if that is the case, it will lower the price somewhat. Need to find out from Stillen.
for the few horsepower you get more from the stillen kit, not worth it, go for the GTM kit, you can get the gains from other areas like the exhaust, remember there test was done with factory exhaust. $ 1000 less for GTM, is a $ 1000 you can spend on repairs when you start breaking other things because of you lead foot.

Buddy Revell

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Or for the extra money you'll save, you can buy supporting mods to help make sure you don't break anything in the first place (oil cooler, clutch, gauges, etc.)

G37Sam

Different compressor trims? On a TT you have two compressors unlike one in a SC. The TT might simply be flowing a little more air in.. Or could have a higher efficiency. And those are just two of the endless factors that could affect your final dyno numbers.

And even if the supercharger does use up more power to spin, it would show in both whp and bhp

Vu37

+1, 1k towards my car payment........