Help Oil Cooler kits? help
03-09-2010, 11:52 PM
#17
Couple corrections here
We offer two different rent oil cooler kits
GTM Motorsports*
*ENGINE EXTERNALS**GTM HD OIL COOLER FOR VQ for 380.00
and
GTM Motorsports**ENGINE EXTERNALS**GTM COMPETITION OIL COOLER FOR VQ for 589.00
We are the only company that offers the kit with a thermostatic oil filter adapter, stillen does not ...
Sam
We offer two different rent oil cooler kits
GTM Motorsports*
*ENGINE EXTERNALS**GTM HD OIL COOLER FOR VQ for 380.00and
GTM Motorsports*
*ENGINE EXTERNALS**GTM COMPETITION OIL COOLER FOR VQ for 589.00We are the only company that offers the kit with a thermostatic oil filter adapter, stillen does not ...
Sam
03-10-2010, 12:03 AM
#18
the GTM kit uses a huge 25 row setrab cooler. this by itself costs $230. the cooler in the 370z DIY is a tru-cool product and is much cheaper. the 370z guide is good, but people have been having problems with the socketless hose coming off the fittings and spilling oil. if you were to build a kit similar to stillens, it would cost around $435. ill call stillen and ask if the hose is pressure tested, but the extra $30 is a small price to pay to know the hose is built right.
here is the response we made to that thread
When the op called us saying that one of the hoses we supplied with the oil cooler kit has burst, we assumed responsibly and send him a new hose with a return shipping label so we can get the hose back to inspect it . Upon inspecting the hose, we discovered that the hose has been shorten, we order thees lines pre-cut to an exact length. if you shorten the line and you don't have the experience required to reassemble this type of fittings, the line will com apart end of story . and this exactly what happened in the op's case .
The kit is specific to the 370z we don't offer any other kit for any other make, the few inches of extra length that the hoses comes with is to give flexibility to the installer so they can install the cooler anywhere they want and for the extra slack required with the engine torquing.
Sam
The kit is specific to the 370z we don't offer any other kit for any other make, the few inches of extra length that the hoses comes with is to give flexibility to the installer so they can install the cooler anywhere they want and for the extra slack required with the engine torquing.
Sam
Sam
03-10-2010, 01:21 AM
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I have a extra cooler for my g.
I considered buy a kit from gtm with installation but they charged another $380 for the install
It was lots of money just for the extra cooler so i had to do more research.
After several hours of on the web I found that it was not that hard to install and gtm's kit was not the best quality ---like a hose,connecter.
So i ordered mine one by one and i spent about 380 total.
I know it was same price as gtm but i got the better parts with same money so i am happy with it.
Most difficult thing with installation was taking bumper out and making a hole for the cooler.
Mike's already gave you the link to the 'how to'
I considered buy a kit from gtm with installation but they charged another $380 for the install
It was lots of money just for the extra cooler so i had to do more research.
After several hours of on the web I found that it was not that hard to install and gtm's kit was not the best quality ---like a hose,connecter.
So i ordered mine one by one and i spent about 380 total.
I know it was same price as gtm but i got the better parts with same money so i am happy with it.
Most difficult thing with installation was taking bumper out and making a hole for the cooler.
Mike's already gave you the link to the 'how to'
03-10-2010, 01:35 AM
#20
STILLEN : STILLEN Oil Cooler Kit
03-10-2010, 01:38 AM
#21
We use Goodridge stainless steel lines.. for exactly that reason. That's all they do, and they do it extremely well. You could cut costs, but then again.. it's your engine oil on the pavement.. and potentially your motor with it..
03-10-2010, 01:48 AM
#22
Actually that's completely incorrect.. all STILLEN Oil Coolers come with a thermostatic plate.. Perhaps you could refrain from commenting on other kits, and stick to your products.
STILLEN : STILLEN Oil Cooler Kit
STILLEN : STILLEN Oil Cooler Kit
Sam
03-10-2010, 01:56 AM
#23
Not a whole lot of difference in the way the adapters look, but yes, our kits ship with a Hayden thermostatic adapter, which begins to open at 160 degrees, and is fully open at 180 degrees.
03-10-2010, 02:00 AM
#24
03-10-2010, 02:14 AM
#25
wow....um.....mad props to Stillen AND GTM for their amazing products....
well like i said earlier, i'm still gonna price mine out and see what the total comes to...
and Stillen's comment is very true....not just for an oil cooler, but for any particular part on a car...you get what you pay for...
well like i said earlier, i'm still gonna price mine out and see what the total comes to...
and Stillen's comment is very true....not just for an oil cooler, but for any particular part on a car...you get what you pay for...
03-10-2010, 02:16 AM
#26
thanks sam for the update. i knew about that one case where the guy bought the gtm kit and the stainless braided hose exploded. not sure why he would go in and shorten it. there is the more pressing concern about the use of socketless hose that is used by many 370z guys. the DIY guide posted in this thread uses such a hose, made by aeroquip. i think the verdict is still out on why that type of hose failed, but in any case going with a crimped hose (like the stainless braided) is probably the better way to go.
question for all though. whats the best thing to use to wrap the stainless braid hose in areas where if might chaff against the power steering hose or splash guards, or anything else for that matter? electrical tape? duct tape? heatshrink?
question for all though. whats the best thing to use to wrap the stainless braid hose in areas where if might chaff against the power steering hose or splash guards, or anything else for that matter? electrical tape? duct tape? heatshrink?
Last edited by gshb; 03-10-2010 at 02:23 AM.
03-10-2010, 02:31 AM
#27
i think the best is still to reroute the line so it doesn't touch anything at all...but if it does....heatshrink (the stuff on exhausts) will definitely help...or some sort of high temperature loom that can wrap around the ss line, and zip tie it in place so it doesn't move around...
03-10-2010, 02:36 AM
#28
i think the best is still to reroute the line so it doesn't touch anything at all...but if it does....heatshrink (the stuff on exhausts) will definitely help...or some sort of high temperature loom that can wrap around the ss line, and zip tie it in place so it doesn't move around...
03-10-2010, 03:10 AM
#29
By heatshrink I am presuming you are meaning some type of header wrap. That would work I suppose. In previous experience, one of the best things I've found for this is to get a larger diameter rubber hose and split it lengthwise, and place it around the hose.
03-10-2010, 12:06 PM
#30
Couple corrections here
We offer two different rent oil cooler kits
GTM Motorsports**ENGINE EXTERNALS**GTM HD OIL COOLER FOR VQ for 380.00
and
GTM Motorsports**ENGINE EXTERNALS**GTM COMPETITION OIL COOLER FOR VQ for 589.00
We are the only company that offers the kit with a thermostatic oil filter adapter, stillen does not ...
Sam
We offer two different rent oil cooler kits
GTM Motorsports*
*ENGINE EXTERNALS**GTM HD OIL COOLER FOR VQ for 380.00and
GTM Motorsports*
*ENGINE EXTERNALS**GTM COMPETITION OIL COOLER FOR VQ for 589.00We are the only company that offers the kit with a thermostatic oil filter adapter, stillen does not ...
Sam
Based on what I can see the HD kit is a 19Row and the Competition is a 25row?