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Old 05-25-2011 | 12:56 AM
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Maxtog:

Did you have a mil light on?
Old 05-25-2011 | 11:26 AM
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I have put 10,700 miles on my 2010 G and have experienced zero problems with the Auto tranny. With all the complaints on this topic it seems strange that I haven't had any.
Are there other owner's on here that have no problems with the 7spd auto?
In 2 weeks I will take off on a 19 day, 4,600 mile trip. When I return I'll post any problems with the auto tranny.
Old 05-25-2011 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mudgen
Well, you certainly should never have any hunting or jerks with that, since it doesn't have discrete gears. But the reason Subaru isn't selling a GT with auto any more is because they wanted to reserve the 5EAT for the 6 cylinder in the new car, and the CVT won't handle the torque from the GT's turboed four.

Which is why I have a G37x now after '05 and '08 Legacy GTs. On paper, they were close in performance to the G, but sitting behind the wheel, there's no comparison whatsoever. I love my G, 7AT quirks and all.
Mudgen: I wasn't advocating that the Subbie is Better than the G. Yes, there is no comparison in this $$$$$$$ range overall to the G. But if you had the 07 G35X, IMHO, the 10 with the 7 AT is too Quirky for me. It IS b/c of the poorly (maybe not the right word, it's just too many gears and the Torque Converters don't work well with them) designed 7AT that many other Car makers have NOT used it. In fact, didn't Lexus use a a 8 speed Auto Tranny in their 450? Is that still around?
Anyway, the Subbie comments were off Thread, sorry for that. Overall for the $$$$ our "new" (a 2010 CPO Legacy trded in for a 08 Mazda 3) is a very real value. We are very pleased with the car. I have to Rip it from my son who uses it for job commuting everyday. My only regret was that I couldn't get a 2.5i Limited as a CPO for a few more bucks....
Old 05-25-2011 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by iandi
The hesitation is my beef too. The flare doesn't bother me as much. It's unclear to me from previous posts if this TSB does anything for the hesitation.
I'll clear it up for you ianddi, NO the TSB application of the reflash does NOT eliminate the hestitation. You should check out the other 36-38 page thread about the 7 AT. I have nmade may posts there as has many other members. But this Thread seemed to have taken over the Posts.
Old 05-25-2011 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by franky2222
The legacy gt has almost 100hp less than the g37 how is that close on paper???
It's not close on paper: its $$$$ relative, and it just comments on the perfromance of the Legacy's CVT tranny and overall value. really didn't belong here, but I caught myself rambling, sorry for that. I had an 07 G35X, I kick myself in the AS^ everyday for not buyinmg it at lease turn in time last June. So, my frustrations with the 2010 G37X come out when I compare the satisfaction points of the two vehicles, not the Track times of the vehicles...
Old 05-25-2011 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by maxtog
Because we are NOT driving a manual. It is the same reason I don't want engine braking either in an AT. That is normal and common on a manual, but is irritating on an automatic.

When I am in total control (manual trans) it does what I want. When it is in control and trying to guess what I want to do, I want it to guess correctly and not be annoying.

I (for one) am not comparing the 7AT to a manual. I am comparing it to the 5AT in the previous Nissan higher-end generation (the Maxima and the G35) which NEVER had flare, NEVER had engine braking, NEVER had extra-hard/bad downshifts (THUNK!), and very RARELY had indecision or hesitation. It was nice- nine years of driving something that just worked and worked well. It was not misbehaving in ways that would draw your attention/distract or make you lose confidence in the transmission, thinking it was malfunctioning or going to fail.
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Old 05-25-2011 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by franky2222
The legacy gt has almost 100hp less than the g37 how is that close on paper???
And weighs around 300lb less. Motor Trend has it at 5.6 0-60, 14.1 in the quarter. I guess it depends on what you call close.
Old 05-25-2011 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike S.
Maxtog: Did you have a mil light on?
I don't even know what a mil light is! If it is "check engine" or other idiot light, I have NEVER had any on, ever.
Old 05-25-2011 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by movinon
I have put 10,700 miles on my 2010 G and have experienced zero problems with the Auto tranny. With all the complaints on this topic it seems strange that I haven't had any.
Are there other owner's on here that have no problems with the 7spd auto?
Consider yourself fortunate
Who knows what is the cause of the problems- driving style, production run, weather, combinations of things. Cars are really complex now- sometimes it is amazing when one has NO problems at all!
Old 05-25-2011 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by maxtog
Consider yourself fortunate
Who knows what is the cause of the problems- driving style, production run, weather, combinations of things. Cars are really complex now- sometimes it is amazing when one has NO problems at all!
When I'm on one of my longer road trips a certain amount are 2 lane, where I tend to do a lot of high speed passing. The first time I have some type of hesitation/flare or whatever and the dealer can't fix the problem, I will get rid of the G.
Old 05-26-2011 | 12:26 AM
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7 speed transmission on my FX and I have zero problems. It shifts way better than that ****ty 8 speed in my uncle's new Cayenne. The gears are constantly all over the place when its thinking on what gear it wants to be in. It's worse in stop and go traffic. You guys think the 7 speed trans in the G37 is bad? You haven't driven a Porsche yet with an 8 speed auto LOL.
Old 01-01-2012 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by maxtog
It is unclear to me what the TSB does [10-076a] at all, even after reading the whole thing. I will report back more experiences with it after I have logged a lot more time and miles.
Well, it has been a lot more time and miles. I am happy to report that the behavior still seems mostly "fixed"! There is almost no flaring, although there is occasionally a "hint" that it wants to but then decides not to (if that makes any sense). I figure if it was going to relearn the old ways (with adaptive stuff) and revert to the old behavior, certainly it would have done so by now.
Old 01-02-2012 | 08:20 PM
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I've had the car over 3 months and 3000 miles and initially I had issues with hesitant downshifting going into a turn and other little quirks that others have mentioned here but in the last several weeks my tranny has become buttery smooth with zero issues. I'm a somewhat aggressive driver but a predictable aggressive driver so I think it's a case of the adaptive tranny actually doing what was intended and adapting to my driving style. Now I'm the only one who drives the car 95% of the time so could that be an issue with some of you guys where maybe your wife is driving it a good chunk of the time and her more conservative driving style is confusing the tranny and it ends up not adapting to any driving style?

If that is the case then this adaptive tranny thing is a stupid idea because Infiniti would be assuming the same person needs to be driving the car most of the time to realy make it work properly.
Old 01-02-2012 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Yosemite Dan
Now I'm the only one who drives the car 95% of the time so could that be an issue with some of you guys where maybe your wife is driving it a good chunk of the time and her more conservative driving style is confusing the tranny and it ends up not adapting to any driving style?
In my case, I am the only one who has ever driven my 2009, with the exception of a few miles by the dealership.
Old 01-06-2012 | 10:12 AM
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Almost 8k miles on my 2011 G37x and the hesitation is actually getting worse. The 200 RPM flare between 4-5 happens almost every time (at first I thought it was rev-matching on upshifts too, but there's no way that's normal or desired). It clunks into 1st when it's cold, too.

I didn't really notice any of these issues the first 6k miles.

Taking it to the dealer next week, but according to the VIN range on the TSB, my car should already have the updated 2011 program.


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