mods = power loss??
#31
IMO, if you like to tinker with your car as a hobby then mods can satisfy that need. Otherwise, save your money and leave the car stock. Spending all that cash and chancing voiding your warranty for a minimal and sometimes non-existent hp gain that you’ll never notice anyway, doesn’t seem to be worth it.
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#38
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i dunno, honestly....nothing beats stock unless ur planning on going with FI....
reason being is that most mods that people do (bolt on's) are for high rpm/horsepower, etc etc etc...yea it looks good on paper...but for the people who do these sorts of mods, how many actually track their cars?? to make daily/city driving fun...it's all about the torque...if ur planning to do intakes and pulleys and exhausts, etc etc then be prepared to kiss ur torque goodbye...
reason being is that most mods that people do (bolt on's) are for high rpm/horsepower, etc etc etc...yea it looks good on paper...but for the people who do these sorts of mods, how many actually track their cars?? to make daily/city driving fun...it's all about the torque...if ur planning to do intakes and pulleys and exhausts, etc etc then be prepared to kiss ur torque goodbye...
#39
i dunno, honestly....nothing beats stock unless ur planning on going with FI....
reason being is that most mods that people do (bolt on's) are for high rpm/horsepower, etc etc etc...yea it looks good on paper...but for the people who do these sorts of mods, how many actually track their cars?? to make daily/city driving fun...it's all about the torque...if ur planning to do intakes and pulleys and exhausts, etc etc then be prepared to kiss ur torque goodbye...
reason being is that most mods that people do (bolt on's) are for high rpm/horsepower, etc etc etc...yea it looks good on paper...but for the people who do these sorts of mods, how many actually track their cars?? to make daily/city driving fun...it's all about the torque...if ur planning to do intakes and pulleys and exhausts, etc etc then be prepared to kiss ur torque goodbye...
My definition of daily driving, based on where I live, definitely lets me utilize high rpms whenever I feel like since it's mostly a suburb. Then highway runs...definitely get to use it as well. I guess it just depends on how much you are willing to pay for certain kinds of benefits.
#41
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I guess it just depends on where you live.
My definition of daily driving, based on where I live, definitely lets me utilize high rpms whenever I feel like since it's mostly a suburb. Then highway runs...definitely get to use it as well. I guess it just depends on how much you are willing to pay for certain kinds of benefits.
My definition of daily driving, based on where I live, definitely lets me utilize high rpms whenever I feel like since it's mostly a suburb. Then highway runs...definitely get to use it as well. I guess it just depends on how much you are willing to pay for certain kinds of benefits.
even at the best case scenario, ur full throttle on the on-ramp onto the highway....u'll go through 2-3 gears hitting 7500rpm....that's about it....i know it's fun to have that extra pull on the top....but for the amount of torque that u lose, it's almost not worth it...that's just my opinion tho....some people are all about the bragging rights and how much whp they have....
#42
but even on a highway run....how fast can u possibly go? and does ur rpm's sit at 5000+?? usually people cruise around 100-130km/h...u'll be sitting at mid rpm's....unless u have no respect for other life forms and ur pedal to the metal the entire stretch....
even at the best case scenario, ur full throttle on the on-ramp onto the highway....u'll go through 2-3 gears hitting 7500rpm....that's about it....i know it's fun to have that extra pull on the top....but for the amount of torque that u lose, it's almost not worth it...that's just my opinion tho....some people are all about the bragging rights and how much whp they have....
even at the best case scenario, ur full throttle on the on-ramp onto the highway....u'll go through 2-3 gears hitting 7500rpm....that's about it....i know it's fun to have that extra pull on the top....but for the amount of torque that u lose, it's almost not worth it...that's just my opinion tho....some people are all about the bragging rights and how much whp they have....
Most people don't modify their cars so that their daily driving habit/style would be more exciting, but rather whenever they feel like pushing their car, or just driving spiritedly, which happens quite often more than you think, those horsepower gains can be realized.
Don't forget that there is also the sound benefit. I would think that nearly all of those who get aftermarket intakes, exhausts, whatever, would agree with me in that if their aftermarket part only came with horsepower gain and zero change in sound, their appreciation of the modification will be significantly diminished.
#43
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Most people don't modify their cars so that their daily driving habit/style would be more exciting, but rather whenever they feel like pushing their car, or just driving spiritedly, which happens quite often more than you think, those horsepower gains can be realized.
Don't forget that there is also the sound benefit. I would think that nearly all of those who get aftermarket intakes, exhausts, whatever, would agree with me in that if their aftermarket part only came with horsepower gain and zero change in sound, their appreciation of the modification will be significantly diminished.
Don't forget that there is also the sound benefit. I would think that nearly all of those who get aftermarket intakes, exhausts, whatever, would agree with me in that if their aftermarket part only came with horsepower gain and zero change in sound, their appreciation of the modification will be significantly diminished.
#44
i dunno, honestly....nothing beats stock unless ur planning on going with FI....
reason being is that most mods that people do (bolt on's) are for high rpm/horsepower, etc etc etc...yea it looks good on paper...but for the people who do these sorts of mods, how many actually track their cars?? to make daily/city driving fun...it's all about the torque...if ur planning to do intakes and pulleys and exhausts, etc etc then be prepared to kiss ur torque goodbye...
reason being is that most mods that people do (bolt on's) are for high rpm/horsepower, etc etc etc...yea it looks good on paper...but for the people who do these sorts of mods, how many actually track their cars?? to make daily/city driving fun...it's all about the torque...if ur planning to do intakes and pulleys and exhausts, etc etc then be prepared to kiss ur torque goodbye...
https://www.myg37.com/forums/engine-...no-sheets.html
Check out bboysteeles dyno before an after all the basic mods (intake, catback, and HFC). 34whp and 17 TQ. They are good numbers, and I stress numbers. You can find many more like this as well.
You may notice that up until ~2350RPM the power and torque is about the same. I personally never drive in that RPM range. Show me how low end torque was reduced?
#45
I am the polar opposite of the crowd on that issue. I'd prefer my mods to make my car perform better and if it doesn't change the sound at all I'd be ecstatic. I can do cosmetic mods if I want to scream "Hey look at me everybody!". I want my mechanical mods to increase the performance of my car for the way I drive it every day. Leave the obnoxiously loud sound to Harleys and Mustangs who crave that type of attention.