Cobb test mule
10-02-2008, 11:51 AM
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Man, I'm not bashing anybody here, I'm just stating a simple fact that Dynos should be done under same conditions (Before and after dynos on same day) it's the only way you will have similar variables, that's all. You are going Stock no matter what, you were even selling your JWT even before the dynos, now I imagine you will do it even faster, but fact is that other private dynos from members just like you and me have shown us what I have felt in may car since day 1, Gains throughout all the band, and specifically from mid-range, and that's the only thing that matters to me.
Everybody here appreciates what you are doing for us, but you MUST understand that your dynos are SOOO different than the rest of previous private dynos, that people will complain about it. There is no way I have lost a single lb of torque, not even mention 17, I have simply gain Tq and WHP since I installed mine, so if your dyno shows otherwise, so be it, I'm not here to try to convince you or anybody else about it, this doesn't bother me at all, I know what I bought, I know what I'm getting out of it, and I'm very please with it. So in a summary, it's your money and your car, so you do what you're please to do.
Everybody here appreciates what you are doing for us, but you MUST understand that your dynos are SOOO different than the rest of previous private dynos, that people will complain about it. There is no way I have lost a single lb of torque, not even mention 17, I have simply gain Tq and WHP since I installed mine, so if your dyno shows otherwise, so be it, I'm not here to try to convince you or anybody else about it, this doesn't bother me at all, I know what I bought, I know what I'm getting out of it, and I'm very please with it. So in a summary, it's your money and your car, so you do what you're please to do.
It is the same same place with same dyno and same tuner . It was actually cooler here in the great state of oregon when I did the JWT . As far as the runs ,
like I said all we are doing is finding what works best for me with my set up and we are going to roll with that and tune . These are just the findings . As far as the dyno graph I thought it would be easier for everyone just to see the comparison of the best runs . Not a whole bunch of pulls . As far as the JWT , when I did a review of it I mentioned that it felt like I lost torque and was FLAMED for that . When I did the FI catback review I also stated that it felt like I got some of that torque back .. Now that im having dyno done I actually can share my results with the community. Do you think I really want to roll around with the stock intakes .. NO ! I will, do to the showing the best gains.. Whats really sad is when there really isnt a whole lot of people doing dyno in regards to their mods on myg37.com and if one member (me) post results that arent that great in regards to peoples beloved intake (JWT) there is a huge uproar. Kinda reminds me of the old UR thread on here when people started to quote their website in regards to gains .I actually bought their set for my 350 z ,dyno and showed no gains.People were really defensive when I told them they would have no gains with that pulley. No one to this date has come through with before and after dyno . Sorry to be the ball buster on here but the stock intake once again (on my set up ) is the way to go ..
like I said all we are doing is finding what works best for me with my set up and we are going to roll with that and tune . These are just the findings . As far as the dyno graph I thought it would be easier for everyone just to see the comparison of the best runs . Not a whole bunch of pulls . As far as the JWT , when I did a review of it I mentioned that it felt like I lost torque and was FLAMED for that . When I did the FI catback review I also stated that it felt like I got some of that torque back .. Now that im having dyno done I actually can share my results with the community. Do you think I really want to roll around with the stock intakes .. NO ! I will, do to the showing the best gains.. Whats really sad is when there really isnt a whole lot of people doing dyno in regards to their mods on myg37.com and if one member (me) post results that arent that great in regards to peoples beloved intake (JWT) there is a huge uproar. Kinda reminds me of the old UR thread on here when people started to quote their website in regards to gains .I actually bought their set for my 350 z ,dyno and showed no gains.People were really defensive when I told them they would have no gains with that pulley. No one to this date has come through with before and after dyno . Sorry to be the ball buster on here but the stock intake once again (on my set up ) is the way to go ..
Last edited by erasat; 10-02-2008 at 11:53 AM.
10-02-2008, 12:17 PM
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Man, I'm not bashing anybody here, I'm just stating a simple fact that Dynos should be done under same conditions (Before and after dynos on same day) it's the only way you will have similar variables, that's all. You are going Stock no matter what, you were even selling your JWT even before the dynos, now I imagine you will do it even faster, but fact is that other private dynos from members just like you and me have shown us what I have felt in may car since day 1, Gains throughout all the band, and specifically from mid-range, and that's the only thing that matters to me.
Everybody here appreciates what you are doing for us, but you MUST understand that your dynos are SOOO different than the rest of previous private dynos, that people will complain about it. There is no way I have lost a single lb of torque, not even mention 17, I have simply gain Tq and WHP since I installed mine, so if your dyno shows otherwise, so be it, I'm not here to try to convince you or anybody else about it, this doesn't bother me at all, I know what I bought, I know what I'm getting out of it, and I'm very please with it. So in a summary, it's your money and your car, so you do what you're please to do.
Everybody here appreciates what you are doing for us, but you MUST understand that your dynos are SOOO different than the rest of previous private dynos, that people will complain about it. There is no way I have lost a single lb of torque, not even mention 17, I have simply gain Tq and WHP since I installed mine, so if your dyno shows otherwise, so be it, I'm not here to try to convince you or anybody else about it, this doesn't bother me at all, I know what I bought, I know what I'm getting out of it, and I'm very please with it. So in a summary, it's your money and your car, so you do what you're please to do.
10-02-2008, 03:04 PM
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10-03-2008, 12:21 AM
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Update 3
Well not much happened today , other than the car was flashed and tuning was started.. There has been delay due to software but Tim figured it out. As far as tuning , have to continue that next week and he said it will be all done .Picking the car up tomorrow due to surgeline having a bbq this weekend. Surgeline is Tims shop.Here is the emailed dyno comparison in regards to stock and JWT intakes.. Sorry for the delay , next week should be really interesting as far as this Cobb Access port .. Ill keep you updated..
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10-03-2008, 01:17 AM
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Well not much happened today , other than the car was flashed and tuning was started.. There has been delay due to software but Tim figured it out. As far as tuning , have to continue that next week and he said it will be all done .Picking the car up tomorrow due to surgeline having a bbq this weekend. Surgeline is Tims shop.Here is the emailed dyno comparison in regards to stock and JWT intakes.. Sorry for the delay , next week should be really interesting as far as this Cobb Access port .. Ill keep you updated..
ouch...stock FTW....lol.
10-03-2008, 01:19 AM
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Maybe it's the possibility that the exhaust / HFC combo is just below the threshold of backpressure neceessary for performance gains without loss of TQ and the intake puts it over the edge(?). I think that the folks with gains either had just HFCs or just exhause and not both. The data is interesting nonetheless. I am sure that different combos could yeild different types of results. It wont really be apples/apples.
Last edited by KAHBOOM; 10-03-2008 at 01:21 AM.
10-03-2008, 01:36 AM
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Maybe it's the possibility that the exhaust / HFC combo is just below the threshold of backpressure neceessary for performance gains without loss of TQ and the intake puts it over the edge(?). I think that the folks with gains either had just HFCs or just exhause and not both. The data is interesting nonetheless. I am sure that different combos could yeild different types of results. It wont really be apples/apples.
10-03-2008, 07:36 AM
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Many other people including max have done before and after dynos of the JWT and shown gains of 10HP ballpark on top of other mods. Max's, for example, was on top of the berk hfc's and borla exhaust and still shown gains of 10hp with the berks.
Don't jump on the "i'ma call it a fail" bandwagon because not all setups are created equal.
Don't jump on the "i'ma call it a fail" bandwagon because not all setups are created equal.
