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Old 09-15-2013, 11:01 AM
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Expereinces with opticoat?

Has anyone used this on their G? A few dealers in the area will apply it but I'm nervous that a 16 yr. old car porter would be applying it with a dish towel.

Also, does this stuff actually prevent swirl marks in the clear coat?
Old 09-16-2013, 08:17 AM
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I had it applied by a pro detailer, it was his second or third time working with it.

HE wasnt happy with it...i think there is a feeling of "i need to be in a rush before it flashes over or Im hosed", but the reality is its pretty easy to put on. BUT the paint prep is absolutely key, since once its on you cant "get at" anything underneath it.

If applied correctly, most wash-induced swirls you see will be in the layer of Opticoat, protecting the actual clear coat. After 2.5 years of driving, washing, etc I have swirls on my Malbec Black, but they arent bad at all. A "refresh" of the Opti could probably make them all go away, but since they arent that bad I dont care.

Does the Opticoat look nice? On my car I give it a hell yes. In my case it gives a nice wet look, and obviously protects really well. Some people might not like the look, some people might not like the fact you cant easily CHANGE the look (nothing sticks to it, so if you want to go back to wax or sealant, you have to polish it all off). But for me, its good protection for Infiniti's feather soft paint AND it makes the car look good at the same time.
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My $0.02

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The above post is probably one of the most ill informed I've seen for many years. The poster has obviously done absolutely zero research but instead used a 'knee-jerk' reaction

Opti-Coat ™ - 2

Optimum Polymer Technologies: Optimum Opti-Coat™ crosslink’s and reacts with urethane and other clear coat paints to form an additional barrier between the elements and your vehicle's paint and is based on a resin pre-polymer that uses a configuration of (Si 14) (SiO2 -silica) bond, which are far more resistant to enzymes than the C-C configuration used in polymer sealants.

As a consequent it is more resistant to the acids found in bird and insect excrement, industrial fallout (acid rain, etc) radiation or the alkaline found in road salt. It forms ceramic bonds at very high temperatures and will not be damaged by extreme heat and therefore resists oxidation. Opti Coat is unlike products like glass/nano coatings because it becomes the topcoat, just like another layer of clear coat paint

Opti-Coat™ has better resistance to chemicals (acid), scratches and release properties and ultra violet (UV) radiation protection than other automotive coating currently in use. This coating has a 2-4 µ (microns) applied thickness and a hardness of 9H (Pencil Hardness) when fully cross-linked (90 days) and provides a semi-permanent coating.

Its application is similar to that of a single component Isocyanate that forms a semi-permanent clear coat finish and lasts almost indefinitely. Unlike waxes and polymer paint sealants that require frequent reapplication. Fracture/evaporation temperatures - 350.0F+

Opti-Coat™ has been tested by the Commonwealth Scientific & Industrial Research Organisation (CSIRO) for both chemical and scratch Resistance.

To download a copy of the report - http://www.optimumcarcare.com.au/XC3...ingTesting.pdf

When applied by OPT approved professional detailers, the Opti-Coat™ finish is guaranteed for five (5) years
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Old 12-06-2013, 03:46 AM
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i have it on my car i applied it myself after a year of having it on i think it is a bit over rated i mean they advertised it as scratch resistant not really but it is 100 times better than wax in terms of protection not really shine.

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Originally Posted by lightlypurified
i have it on my car i applied it myself after a year of having it on i think it is a bit over rated i mean they advertised it as scratch resistant not really but it is 100 times better than wax in terms of protection not really shine.





There the problem.. you applied it your self. unless you have been trained to put it on and know what to look for as well as the preparation which is one of the most important steps of the whole thing. thats not including the claying, paint correction steps. Opti Pro is one hell of a product, A fellow detailer applied it to a car and a few days later it gets egged as a school prank, the owner washed it down the next day and no sketching was left behind. the daughter spilled coffee in the back tan carpet, all they did was wipe it off and no stain was left. I applied it to my G37 and i just trow water and dry every 4-5 days because no dust sticks to it.
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had mine done professionally by Distinctiv Detailing in NorCal Johnny did a great job.

Never regretted it 10 months later swirls have been kept to a minimum and water does seem to just repel off the paint even with the dealerships "hand wash" i've seen them pull it out of the machine a couple times. For me its more of an insurance: does it work yes, does it work as stated and a "life time" application highly doubt it, but if it can save the paint from oxidation and sun damage a couple extra years why not (since my car sits outside 90% of the time)

<a href="http://s13.photobucket.com/user/kelv1ntran/media/Kelvin-after-3.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/kelv1ntran/Kelvin-after-3.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Kelvin-after-3.jpg"/></a>

<a href="http://s13.photobucket.com/user/kelv1ntran/media/Kevin-hood-5050-2.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a281/kelv1ntran/Kevin-hood-5050-2.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo Kevin-hood-5050-2.jpg"/></a>

pictures from right after it my car was detailed and opticoat pro was applied.

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wow those are small pictures sorry...
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Originally Posted by Biggwappz
There the problem.. you applied it your self. unless you have been trained to put it on and know what to look for as well as the preparation which is one of the most important steps of the whole thing. thats not including the claying, paint correction steps. Opti Pro is one hell of a product, A fellow detailer applied it to a car and a few days later it gets egged as a school prank, the owner washed it down the next day and no sketching was left behind. the daughter spilled coffee in the back tan carpet, all they did was wipe it off and no stain was left. I applied it to my G37 and i just trow water and dry every 4-5 days because no dust sticks to it.
What Problem is that? i used opti coat 2.0 the consumer friendly version i did all the prepp i needed to do and gave it 24 hours.If you got it professionally done then they used opti guard obviously is harder than 2.0. i'm assuming 2 layers should do with the 2.0. All i'm saying is that its a bit over hyped in terms of scratch resistance they advertised as 9h hardness. I tested my theory with 2 layers of opti coat 2.0 it is now shiner then ever.

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Originally Posted by Biggwappz
the daughter spilled coffee in the back tan carpet, all they did was wipe it off and no stain was left. I applied it to my G37 and i just trow water and dry every 4-5 days because no dust sticks to it.

HMM not to be rude but how does spilled coffe have to do with opti coat? are u referring to opti guard fabric? which has hydrophobic abilities.
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[QUOTE=obg376mt;3718698]had mine done professionally by Distinctiv Detailing in NorCal Johnny did a great job.

Never regretted it 10 months later swirls have been kept to a minimum


I spoke to a rep from optimum polymer technologies u can use a light final polish to remove them but it will degrade the coating.
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Spoke with a local detailer, 1 of 2 certified applicators in my area about doing my wife's car. The cost was $1250 and was told that it will still get damaged by water etching or bird droppings. All the labor is in the prep, install is pretty simple for a detailer. He also said that it is not for everyone and not like an extra clearcoat.
The one they sell at Amazon is easier to apply and could probably be a diy project, but the paint has to be good. Also not as shiney or smooth as wax. I think he said they could put sealent over it and get it shinier and less stickier.

As much as I want to try it, it is alot of money.
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Originally Posted by jnslprd
Spoke with a local detailer, 1 of 2 certified applicators in my area about doing my wife's car. The cost was $1250 and was told that it will still get damaged by water etching or bird droppings. All the labor is in the prep, install is pretty simple for a detailer. He also said that it is not for everyone and not like an extra clearcoat.
The one they sell at Amazon is easier to apply and could probably be a diy project, but the paint has to be good. Also not as shiney or smooth as wax. I think he said they could put sealent over it and get it shinier and less stickier.

As much as I want to try it, it is alot of money.
it only gets shiny when you apply a 2nd coat. 1250 is way to steep.
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I'm currently testing it on my personal car (been about 3 months, so far so good), but have clients who have had it on their vehicles anywhere from 1 to 2.5 years now. More recently, about 6 months ago to be exact, I applied it to a client's dark purple Subaru STI and it greatly helped reduce swirl marks, water spots and general scuffing he has experienced ever since purchasing it new about 1.5 years ago. In my experience, it does what it sets out to do but only to an extent. However, I never expected it to be a permanent coating that can withstand some serious hammering. Rather, a good investment for basically any vehicle to protect the clear coat for a few years, minimize swirl marks or other paint damage and also eliminate the need to protect the car with wax or sealant for a long time.

If the car is in pretty good condition and can be corrected to be in very good condition, I always highly recommend it (especially for cars with more sensitive paint). Also, it's a great option for vehicles you want to keep for a while or classics that may have thinning paint. If on the other hand the paint is beat up and thin, it may not be a good idea to seal in all the defects in this type of paint with something like Opti-Coat. In this case, it might make more sense to only lightly polish and keep applying a filler wax, etc. in order to hide some defects and keep it looking good as long as possible.
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Originally Posted by lightlypurified
it only gets shiny when you apply a 2nd coat. 1250 is way to steep.
False.

Unless the first coat didnt bond at all, adding a second coat just wastes Opticoat, since it wont stick to itself. It *might* fill in some spots missed on the first round, but it should not be necessary to make the car shine.

My car has 1 coat of Opti (now 3 yrs old) and it shines better than it did the day I picked the car up new.
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Originally Posted by Chris11LE
False.

Unless the first coat didnt bond at all, adding a second coat just wastes Opticoat, since it wont stick to itself. It *might* fill in some spots missed on the first round, but it should not be necessary to make the car shine.

My car has 1 coat of Opti (now 3 yrs old) and it shines better than it did the day I picked the car up new.

ok maybe there is some shine on 1 layer of opti coat but i applied the 2nd is where it really started to shine and yes you can layer it i spoke to a rep from optimum.


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