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Old 02-28-2010 | 05:37 PM
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Scratches on Black paint

I am so stupid. I noticed a few very superficial scratches by my trunk. I used rubbing command to get them out NOT A GOOD IDEA, now I have a bunch of little circular scratches. Is there anything I can use on them to get the out. I am so bummed... Thanks so much, KayC
Old 02-28-2010 | 06:05 PM
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You'll probably want to invest in a Porter Cable 7427xp, assortment of polishes, and pads. I plan on buying the whole lot soon for my Black Obsidian G37S. Pretty much the only way I'm going to get the upperhand on black scratches.
Old 02-28-2010 | 07:43 PM
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You'll probably want to invest in a Porter Cable 7427xp, assortment of polishes, and pads. I plan on buying the whole lot soon for my Black Obsidian G37S. Pretty much the only way I'm going to get the upperhand on black scratches.

What is that????
Old 02-28-2010 | 08:02 PM
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Take it to a professional detailer and they can remove the original scratches and the swirl marks you made when trying to get them out. Polishing out scratches by hand is impossible to do. It really needs a polisher and someone who knows how to use it to be done correctly.
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What is that????
Don't sweat it.. Get the car polished out, if its an 09, section off that part and just polish that section out.

If the swirls aren't to bad they may heal on their own under direct sunlight. Be very cautious with black.. You will see every swirl and or scratch in the clear.


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Old 03-08-2010 | 05:00 PM
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Try Meguairs Scratch X, and remember to push hard to make it work. It works very well on surface swirls/scratches.

If you don't know how to use it, I'd skip getting a DA polisher.

I just got rid of my black 335...and I'll never get one again. If you're **** about paint black isn't a good choice. Shows everything.
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Originally Posted by Beer Magazine
Try Meguairs Scratch X, and remember to push hard to make it work. It works very well on surface swirls/scratches.

If you don't know how to use it, I'd skip getting a DA polisher.

I just got rid of my black 335...and I'll never get one again. If you're **** about paint black isn't a good choice. Shows everything.
I have to disagree with you on this.. Please do not push hard, you will only make it worse and put more scratches into the clear. Infiniti clear is real soft. Goto meguiars forum's and look into paint correction. Technique is everything.. And since your car is black its good to learn how to keep your car in good shape.

POrter cable Orange pads, White Pads, Black pads, and blue for waxing.

Meguiars m105 on orange pad, followed by m205 on white, and m205 on black pad for added depth and gloss. Wax and your good to go.

Of Course proper preping is required before you polish.
Old 03-08-2010 | 09:07 PM
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I am so stupid. I noticed a few very superficial scratches by my trunk. I used rubbing command to get them out NOT A GOOD IDEA, now I have a bunch of little circular scratches. Is there anything I can use on them to get the out. I am so bummed... Thanks so much, KayC
As others have mentioned, the best way to tackle the swirls is to invest in a quality buffer such as the Porter Cable 7424XP.

The process that removes swirls is polishing your paint, which is essentially taking abrasive polishes to your paint to level out the little dips and valleys (swirls and scratches) in your clear coat.

I'd recommend looking into this PC7424XP + Meguiar's polishes kit as a great starting point to correct your imperfections. That kit in conjunction with this Meg's polishing how-to tutorial will give you professional like results even for a beginner.

Let me know if you have any questions on anything.

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Originally Posted by JGabucci
I have to disagree with you on this.. Please do not push hard, you will only make it worse and put more scratches into the clear. Infiniti clear is real soft. Goto meguiars forum's and look into paint correction. Technique is everything.. And since your car is black its good to learn how to keep your car in good shape.

POrter cable Orange pads, White Pads, Black pads, and blue for waxing.

Meguiars m105 on orange pad, followed by m205 on white, and m205 on black pad for added depth and gloss. Wax and your good to go.

Of Course proper preping is required before you polish.
Ive been to meguairs detail class. You must press hard for it to work. Period. Polish is sanding the clear coat and meguairs breaks down so you can't over polish with thier consumer products. Don't listen to me though. I only went to the class twice and it will tell you the same thing on their forum. A

also if you are worried about using scratchx you tell somebody to use a DA? You can make it far worse with that.
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Originally Posted by Beer Magazine
Ive been to meguairs detail class. You must press hard for it to work. Period. Polish is sanding the clear coat and meguairs breaks down so you can't over polish with thier consumer products. Don't listen to me though. I only went to the class twice and it will tell you the same thing on their forum. A

also if you are worried about using scratchx you tell somebody to use a DA? You can make it far worse with that.
I am glad you went to class, I am sure they showed you some pretty good technique's and ways to tackle paint issues, congrats .

However, I still disagree with you and suggest to NOT push hard and yes you CAN and probably will scratch the paint further with ScratchX. Pushing hard to someone who knows nothing about technique will take a foam pad apply product and do exactly that. They'll Rub and rub and guess what if there is anything under that applicator (Dirt of anykind) your scratching the crap outta that clear. Especially on this car.

I speak through experience, trial and error with my 08 Black G Coupe which was a nightmare to maintain even though I managed to have a completely swirls and scratch free finish for some time. Infiniti Paint is very soft and easily scratched.

From my experience and this is my opinion ScracthX wasn't that good to begin with. I had to apply the product a billion times using different amounts of pressure before I even made slight improvement to any of the deeper swirls. Just a guess but chances are the paint is hazed a bit and even though scratchX may improve the haze it isn't gonna remove the deeper imprefections he put in.

A porter cable has a built in clutch which prevents the user from apply too much pressure, it simply stops rotating which is a double edged sword. You have the saftey from burning clear however depending on the paint your working with and severarity of the imperfection it will a bit more time to correct because you may need several passes.

To Kayc: If you have the time and patients and wanna make a weekend outta making the car look amazing invest in some items. goto meguiars website and search the boards before doing anything. If you don't feel like bothering with the hassel of correcting your entire car bring it to someone else to do. Not sure if your on the east or the NY/NJ area but if you are I have someone for you who came highly recommended.

If you wanna have the tools to be able to correct your car on your own, goto detailed images website they have great products, how-to's, and specials they do on a regular basis.

The combination I mentioned above in an earlier post seems to be the best combination for our type of paint.

FYI: If it is an 09 I would wait alittle due to the fact that the paint has a self healing property. Polishing out the car would essential remove that healing property if I am not mistaken. Good luck and its not that big a deal, it can be fixed.
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I do all of my paint correction via machine, so I've never personally used scratch x. For those that want to, here seems to be a decent write up on how to properly use the product.

How To Remove Swirls By Hand - Car Care Forums: Meguiar's Online

My biggest gripe with the write up is this line.

After thoroughly, (but gently with care and passion), remove any excess polish with a clean, soft premium quality microfiber polishing cloth or 100% cotton towel.
Please folks, never use a cotton towel on your paint. Stick with MF.
Old 03-17-2010 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JGabucci
I am glad you went to class, I am sure they showed you some pretty good technique's and ways to tackle paint issues, congrats .

However, I still disagree with you and suggest to NOT push hard and yes you CAN and probably will scratch the paint further with ScratchX. Pushing hard to someone who knows nothing about technique will take a foam pad apply product and do exactly that. They'll Rub and rub and guess what if there is anything under that applicator (Dirt of anykind) your scratching the crap outta that clear. Especially on this car.

I speak through experience, trial and error with my 08 Black G Coupe which was a nightmare to maintain even though I managed to have a completely swirls and scratch free finish for some time. Infiniti Paint is very soft and easily scratched.

From my experience and this is my opinion ScracthX wasn't that good to begin with. I had to apply the product a billion times using different amounts of pressure before I even made slight improvement to any of the deeper swirls. Just a guess but chances are the paint is hazed a bit and even though scratchX may improve the haze it isn't gonna remove the deeper imprefections he put in.

A porter cable has a built in clutch which prevents the user from apply too much pressure, it simply stops rotating which is a double edged sword. You have the saftey from burning clear however depending on the paint your working with and severarity of the imperfection it will a bit more time to correct because you may need several passes.

To Kayc: If you have the time and patients and wanna make a weekend outta making the car look amazing invest in some items. goto meguiars website and search the boards before doing anything. If you don't feel like bothering with the hassel of correcting your entire car bring it to someone else to do. Not sure if your on the east or the NY/NJ area but if you are I have someone for you who came highly recommended.

If you wanna have the tools to be able to correct your car on your own, goto detailed images website they have great products, how-to's, and specials they do on a regular basis.

The combination I mentioned above in an earlier post seems to be the best combination for our type of paint.

FYI: If it is an 09 I would wait alittle due to the fact that the paint has a self healing property. Polishing out the car would essential remove that healing property if I am not mistaken. Good luck and its not that big a deal, it can be fixed.

Again, Since I was at the HQ and told what to do with their products by MG themselves...I think I'm not making stuff up. They went over how to use all of their products and demonstrated SratchX on cars.

And in the link below the word "passion" was used to get people to push hard.

To do this by hand with ScratchX, you need to,
  • * Apply to a small section at a time
    * First spread the ScratchX evenly over the area you're going to work (before working it in)
    * Work the microscopic diminishing abrasives against the finish applying a little passion behind the applicator pad
    * Repeat this process with multiple applications after first removing the residue from each application after working it against the finish

If you use SX push HARD. If you think that mild polish is going to swirl paint DO NOT USE A DA. I have a black BMW and have tried it all...my solution was to never get black since it's way too much headache.
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