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Old 10-18-2008, 09:17 PM
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I pressed down until I thought I heard the tool sound different - I would call it a medium pressure, but no more. If I new what was causing the swirl I would change how I am doing it.

I did notice that as I was polishing there was a slight bit of powerdering, but I assumed this was normal.

What combo would you sugest?

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Don't waste your time using the 0106ff with a black finishing pad. It's not meant for polishing and all you will be doing is wasting your time and your product. Btw, how much downward pressure were you applying when using the PC?
Old 10-18-2008, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Garnet Canuck
Don't waste your time using the 0106ff with a black finishing pad. It's not meant for polishing and all you will be doing is wasting your time and your product. Btw, how much downward pressure were you applying when using the PC?

I have to disagree greatly. 106ff and a black pad reveals a greatly refined finished, althoguh typically all one would need is a white pad and 106FF
Old 10-18-2008, 10:14 PM
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I have to disagree greatly. 106ff and a black pad reveals a greatly refined finished, althoguh typically all one would need is a white pad and 106FF
The beauty of 0106ff is that is finishes down extremely well. I don't see how using a non-abrasive black pad with 0106ff will help with the OPs issues.
Old 10-19-2008, 12:09 AM
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I understand that the pad and polish work together, but are you saying there is no benefit at all with just the polish doing the work even if the pad isn't abrasive?

Originally Posted by Garnet Canuck
The beauty of 0106ff is that is finishes down extremely well. I don't see how using a non-abrasive black pad with 0106ff will help with the OPs issues.
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why is polishing so complicated?
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Originally Posted by Garnet Canuck
The beauty of 0106ff is that is finishes down extremely well. I don't see how using a non-abrasive black pad with 0106ff will help with the OPs issues.
thats the exact point, not to use any abrasion from the pad, and let the polish do the fine work. When running into cases such as this, where there is still very fine marring, its best not to introduce more abrasion by using a "light polishing pad" but instead switch to a finishing pad, and just let the polish do the work.

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Old 10-19-2008, 07:12 PM
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update

success, no swirls! So I started by just trying the PO106ff and black pad but that only helped a little, so I went with what was suggested on this threads advice. I ended up going orange with PO106ff then black with PO106ff. Now I know I should have gone white then black but the finish was so glass smooth after the orange that I thought I'd give the black a try and it turned out really nice. This was my first time so I didn't do the whole car incase I had messed up, but I did the hood, the fenders and the bumper. There are some deeper marks that will require the SIP and orange, but that will have to be for another day - my wife gripes if I spend too much time on the cars.

Anyway, thanks for all the advice!!!!
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Originally Posted by Seer
thats the exact point, not to use any abrasion from the pad, and let the polish do the fine work. When running into cases such as this, where there is still very fine marring, its best not to introduce more abrasion by using a "light polishing pad" but instead switch to a finishing pad, and just let the polish do the work.
In all of my details, I've never once had to use a non-abrasive pad to to finish up........especially when using 0106ff.
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Originally Posted by last lemming
success, no swirls! So I started by just trying the PO106ff and black pad but that only helped a little, so I went with what was suggested on this threads advice. I ended up going orange with PO106ff then black with PO106ff. Now I know I should have gone white then black but the finish was so glass smooth after the orange that I thought I'd give the black a try and it turned out really nice. This was my first time so I didn't do the whole car incase I had messed up, but I did the hood, the fenders and the bumper. There are some deeper marks that will require the SIP and orange, but that will have to be for another day - my wife gripes if I spend too much time on the cars.

Anyway, thanks for all the advice!!!!
Good stuff, I'm glad you've found success.
Old 10-19-2008, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Garnet Canuck
In all of my details, I've never once had to use a non-abrasive pad to to finish up........especially when using 0106ff.
Ive come across a good bit, typically on softer clear coat cars.
Old 10-19-2008, 08:36 PM
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how would you finish up then?

Originally Posted by Garnet Canuck
In all of my details, I've never once had to use a non-abrasive pad to to finish up........especially when using 0106ff.
Old 10-20-2008, 09:21 AM
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well PO85RD is really best for finishing though with a black pad.

This is my typical pad/combo lineup for Menzerna

Power Gloss-Purple Foam Wool
SIP-Orange
106FA-White/Green (I like this better than 106ff)
PO85RD-Black
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