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Normally I'd recommend looking into Stoner Tarminator, but it is a pretty powerful product and I'd be worried about it potentially damaging your clear bra.
I'd look into Garnet Canuck recommendation mentioned below, especially if he's had good luck with it on a clear bra.
Regards,
George @ DetailedImage.com
I'd look into Garnet Canuck recommendation mentioned below, especially if he's had good luck with it on a clear bra.
Regards,
George @ DetailedImage.com
Placed an order for the Bug Squash and other odds and ends. It will be 3 weeks before I see my car again , but I'll let you know how it works on the clear bra.
#497
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George -
I have a small dilemma. I went to your sight and addition to the Blackfire All Finish paint protection, you have the Midnight Carnuba Wax, Wet Diamond and compound Menzerna. I am confused with the new BF selections. I have not ordered blackfire in a while (maybe a couple years now). I am a longtime BlackFire user and I have stacked up to at least two years of supply, and now I am out.
My polish process used to be BF Gloss enhancing + a zillion coats of BF All finish paint protection. With the new selections you have now, what do recommend works the best to remove swirls? Keep in mind that I love to put a zillion coats on however, I had a crappy detailler wet sand buff my car and my Black G looks like crap. The all finish paint protectant is not working to hide the swirls.
I have a small dilemma. I went to your sight and addition to the Blackfire All Finish paint protection, you have the Midnight Carnuba Wax, Wet Diamond and compound Menzerna. I am confused with the new BF selections. I have not ordered blackfire in a while (maybe a couple years now). I am a longtime BlackFire user and I have stacked up to at least two years of supply, and now I am out.
My polish process used to be BF Gloss enhancing + a zillion coats of BF All finish paint protection. With the new selections you have now, what do recommend works the best to remove swirls? Keep in mind that I love to put a zillion coats on however, I had a crappy detailler wet sand buff my car and my Black G looks like crap. The all finish paint protectant is not working to hide the swirls.
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George -
I have a small dilemma. I went to your sight and addition to the Blackfire All Finish paint protection, you have the Midnight Carnuba Wax, Wet Diamond and compound Menzerna. I am confused with the new BF selections. I have not ordered blackfire in a while (maybe a couple years now). I am a longtime BlackFire user and I have stacked up to at least two years of supply, and now I am out.
My polish process used to be BF Gloss enhancing + a zillion coats of BF All finish paint protection. With the new selections you have now, what do recommend works the best to remove swirls? Keep in mind that I love to put a zillion coats on however, I had a crappy detailler wet sand buff my car and my Black G looks like crap. The all finish paint protectant is not working to hide the swirls.
I have a small dilemma. I went to your sight and addition to the Blackfire All Finish paint protection, you have the Midnight Carnuba Wax, Wet Diamond and compound Menzerna. I am confused with the new BF selections. I have not ordered blackfire in a while (maybe a couple years now). I am a longtime BlackFire user and I have stacked up to at least two years of supply, and now I am out.
My polish process used to be BF Gloss enhancing + a zillion coats of BF All finish paint protection. With the new selections you have now, what do recommend works the best to remove swirls? Keep in mind that I love to put a zillion coats on however, I had a crappy detailler wet sand buff my car and my Black G looks like crap. The all finish paint protectant is not working to hide the swirls.
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The BF Gloss Enhancing polish that you have been using merely attempts to hide the swirls, but does not remove them. Pick yourself up an orbital polisher like a Portal Cable and an abrassive polish like Menzerna 0106FF (which has been far and away my favorite polish) and you'll be all set. My personal recommendation would be to pick up a package like this and also this polish. Good luck.
Is it necessary to get the porter cable? Or could I apply the Menzerna polish by hand? I did not notice anywhere on the page that stated the portal Cable was recommended. I am a pretty good self detailer. I am only having this swirl problem because of my accident which my insurance company should have totalled my car. My other cars are usually swirl free or at least to the human eye. The portal Cable would probably only be used by me once.
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Garnet -
Is it necessary to get the porter cable? Or could I apply the Menzerna polish by hand? I did not notice anywhere on the page that stated the portal Cable was recommended. I am a pretty good self detailer. I am only having this swirl problem because of my accident which my insurance company should have totalled my car. My other cars are usually swirl free or at least to the human eye. The portal Cable would probably only be used by me once.
Is it necessary to get the porter cable? Or could I apply the Menzerna polish by hand? I did not notice anywhere on the page that stated the portal Cable was recommended. I am a pretty good self detailer. I am only having this swirl problem because of my accident which my insurance company should have totalled my car. My other cars are usually swirl free or at least to the human eye. The portal Cable would probably only be used by me once.
I honestly can't recommend getting a PC enough. Once you use it once, I can pretty much guarantee that you'll use it more than you think. I would consider it an investment, not a cost.
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I debated getting a PC since I'm not that obsessed with detailing my car. But after seeing how much easier it made things, and how much better the results were, I'd also highly recommend it.
I debated getting a PC since I'm not that obsessed with detailing my car. But after seeing how much easier it made things, and how much better the results were, I'd also highly recommend it.
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Garnet -
Is it necessary to get the porter cable? Or could I apply the Menzerna polish by hand? I did not notice anywhere on the page that stated the portal Cable was recommended. I am a pretty good self detailer. I am only having this swirl problem because of my accident which my insurance company should have totalled my car. My other cars are usually swirl free or at least to the human eye. The portal Cable would probably only be used by me once.
Is it necessary to get the porter cable? Or could I apply the Menzerna polish by hand? I did not notice anywhere on the page that stated the portal Cable was recommended. I am a pretty good self detailer. I am only having this swirl problem because of my accident which my insurance company should have totalled my car. My other cars are usually swirl free or at least to the human eye. The portal Cable would probably only be used by me once.
http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=220443
#503
George -
I have a small dilemma. I went to your sight and addition to the Blackfire All Finish paint protection, you have the Midnight Carnuba Wax, Wet Diamond and compound Menzerna. I am confused with the new BF selections. I have not ordered blackfire in a while (maybe a couple years now). I am a longtime BlackFire user and I have stacked up to at least two years of supply, and now I am out.
My polish process used to be BF Gloss enhancing + a zillion coats of BF All finish paint protection. With the new selections you have now, what do recommend works the best to remove swirls? Keep in mind that I love to put a zillion coats on however, I had a crappy detailler wet sand buff my car and my Black G looks like crap. The all finish paint protectant is not working to hide the swirls.
I have a small dilemma. I went to your sight and addition to the Blackfire All Finish paint protection, you have the Midnight Carnuba Wax, Wet Diamond and compound Menzerna. I am confused with the new BF selections. I have not ordered blackfire in a while (maybe a couple years now). I am a longtime BlackFire user and I have stacked up to at least two years of supply, and now I am out.
My polish process used to be BF Gloss enhancing + a zillion coats of BF All finish paint protection. With the new selections you have now, what do recommend works the best to remove swirls? Keep in mind that I love to put a zillion coats on however, I had a crappy detailler wet sand buff my car and my Black G looks like crap. The all finish paint protectant is not working to hide the swirls.
As others have mentioned, investing in a quality buffer will certainly remove swirls more effectively than if you performed the process by hand. Can you get results by hand? Yes. Will it be as dramatic and will you remove as many imperfections? Definitely not.
Here's the difference between the products:
Blackfire SRC Finishing Polish - This is a fine abrasive polish that will permanently remove fine imperfections by leveling out your clear coat. This is a product that is best applied with a buffer.
Blackfire Gloss Enhancing Polish - This product is a gloss enhancer that has some fillers in it. This can mask imperfections in your paint, but it won't permanently remove them like the finishing polish or compound would. This is usually a good option for hand applications since you aren't leveling out the clear coat and can still hide the swirls and imperfections.
Blackfire Wet Diamond - This is Blackfire's paint sealant. This will provide you with underlying protection that lasts anywhere from 4 - 6 months pending on weather conditions, miles driven, storage, etc. This is probably similar to the All Finish Paint Protectant.
Blackfire Midnight Sun Carnauba Wax - This is Blackfire's latest carnauba wax. This will add depth and gloss to the paint as well as add protection to the paint.
If you have any other questions on anything, please do not hesitate to ask.
George
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Also Lee, just to give you an idea of what a PC can do for you, take a look at the thread below. This was a customer's car that I did last weekend. It had the worst swirl marks you could imagine, but it turned out pretty good in the end thanks to a PC. There is no way polishing by hand could give those results.
http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=220443
http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=220443
After seeing what you have do here, I am going to invest in a PC now. Much appreciated.
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WTF/WOW!!! Simply amazing. I really wish you could have took pics under the halogen lamps. I usually use my CandlePower Flashlight to shine on my car after a good wax job to see if I hid the swirls or scratches.
After seeing what you have do here, I am going to invest in a PC now. Much appreciated.
After seeing what you have do here, I am going to invest in a PC now. Much appreciated.
You honestly won't have any regrets buying the PC. You'll wonder how you survived without it in the past.
#506
I am contemplating whether a PC will be a worthwhile investment. I probably will use it to polish once, but I am interested if it will help all that much with the waxing process. If it can bring a significant advantage in terms of helping me achieve better results in wax applications, I'll buy one.
What are your thoughts on different manufacturers? There's Porter-Cable, obviously, but I think Meguiar's has a product, as well as Griot's.
Thoughts?
What are your thoughts on different manufacturers? There's Porter-Cable, obviously, but I think Meguiar's has a product, as well as Griot's.
Thoughts?
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I am contemplating whether a PC will be a worthwhile investment. I probably will use it to polish once, but I am interested if it will help all that much with the waxing process. If it can bring a significant advantage in terms of helping me achieve better results in wax applications, I'll buy one.
What are your thoughts on different manufacturers? There's Porter-Cable, obviously, but I think Meguiar's has a product, as well as Griot's.
Thoughts?
What are your thoughts on different manufacturers? There's Porter-Cable, obviously, but I think Meguiar's has a product, as well as Griot's.
Thoughts?
#508
You don't buy a PC to aid in the waxing process. A PC is mostly used for the purpose of removing light scratches, swirl marks, spider webbing, etc. If you are looking to purchase a PC for the sole purpose of applying a wax, don't waste your money. Carnuba waxes are best applied by hand and I wouldn't recommend applying them via PC. You can apply sealants via your PC however you'll waste a little more compared by hand. A PC is THE BEST tool in your detailing arsenal if you use it correctly.
If you're just looking for a buffer to spread a sealant and / or liquid wax, then you wouldn't want to spend the money on a Porter Cable or any other buffer you mentioned for that matter. After spending hours on a machine properly polishing, you're usually thankful to do the last couple coats by hand!
Let me know if there's anything else I can help you with.
George
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finally tried out the Blackfire midnight sun wax.....and i love it!!!
more pics here:
https://www.myg37.com/forums/showthr...95#post2355295
more pics here:
https://www.myg37.com/forums/showthr...95#post2355295