Help Coilover rattle
#1
Coilover rattle
First off let me say I am not going to listen to trolling about what coilovers are good or bad or that I should buy something different or whatever. If you don't feel like helping then please just move on.
I have the Megan Racing coils and have had them for about six months or so and they have been great. Ride is good, harsher than stock but better than eibachs on stock struts. I assume I have the common rattle problem people have expressed with these and similar brands like BC Racing coilovers. It sounds to be coming from the rear passenger side and is a very unique rattle/clanking noise. It isn't over all bumps but only on certain ones.
I have quadruple checked that everything is tightened and installed right. I finally found out that I had the pre-load set wrong (or not at all) so I corrected that today and it is better along with the ride being better, but I am still getting this very specific noise over certain bumps.
After reading through all the threads on here I haven't really found a definitive answer on what it could be. I am running out of ideas and the only thing I can think of that's left is the pillow ball bearing inside one of the pillow ball mounts.
Before I take the entire strut assembly off and take it apart is their anything else I can check?
I have the Megan Racing coils and have had them for about six months or so and they have been great. Ride is good, harsher than stock but better than eibachs on stock struts. I assume I have the common rattle problem people have expressed with these and similar brands like BC Racing coilovers. It sounds to be coming from the rear passenger side and is a very unique rattle/clanking noise. It isn't over all bumps but only on certain ones.
I have quadruple checked that everything is tightened and installed right. I finally found out that I had the pre-load set wrong (or not at all) so I corrected that today and it is better along with the ride being better, but I am still getting this very specific noise over certain bumps.
After reading through all the threads on here I haven't really found a definitive answer on what it could be. I am running out of ideas and the only thing I can think of that's left is the pillow ball bearing inside one of the pillow ball mounts.
Before I take the entire strut assembly off and take it apart is their anything else I can check?
#5
I will let you know. I'm trying to decide if I want to give it a go tonight or wait until tomorrow.
Have you made sure the pre-load was set right? The install instructions that came with it never mention the pre-load for the rear so I never had it adjusted. I finally found this article and got it set right Infiniti G37 Coupe BC Coilover installation steps showing step by step instructions on installation, height adjustment and measurements
Like I said, it improved it some but it is still there in certain instances.
Have you made sure the pre-load was set right? The install instructions that came with it never mention the pre-load for the rear so I never had it adjusted. I finally found this article and got it set right Infiniti G37 Coupe BC Coilover installation steps showing step by step instructions on installation, height adjustment and measurements
Like I said, it improved it some but it is still there in certain instances.
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wake, I actually have the same clunk noise in the rear too. I used the DIY that you posted too and followed verbatim how he was preloading the rear and my clunking was really bad. But then I came upon instructions on how Pete@BC advised preloading should be performed. Basically you raise the spring bucket enough so that the spring doesn't move, then raise it another 1/4". The adjust the strut in order for it to be able to link up to the spring bucket. And that's it. I've done it and confirmed I preloaded correctly idk how many times. The clunking is alot better but it's still there. I would look at it again but it's so cold nowadays. Some guy mentioned that getting longer struts and taler spring mounts got rid of the noise...
http://www.bcracing-na.com/G37install.htm
http://www.bcracing-na.com/G37install.htm
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#8
Ok, that's pretty much how I did the preload. I jacked the spring bucket up until it was snug then raised it probably another 1/2 to 1/4 then adjusted the strut to line up with the mounting holes.
I have a strong feeling it is the pillow ball bearings. If you google coilover rattle this is an extremely common cause for rattling with aftermarket coils. Once I get the right size wrench tomorrow and take apart the pillow ball mount I will let you all know.
I have a strong feeling it is the pillow ball bearings. If you google coilover rattle this is an extremely common cause for rattling with aftermarket coils. Once I get the right size wrench tomorrow and take apart the pillow ball mount I will let you all know.
#10
I have the same rattle, also mostly coming from my passenger rear side. I am on BC coils.
It's odd though, why can they make a half decent front shock (i.e. no rattles or pillow ball issues) but they can't perfect a much simpler (no spring) shock for the rear.
It's odd though, why can they make a half decent front shock (i.e. no rattles or pillow ball issues) but they can't perfect a much simpler (no spring) shock for the rear.
#12
Well I made a mistake. I already had the pillow ball bearings off without having to remove those hex screws. I got those off and that just reveals where the actual pillow ball joint is. Even still everything looks fine. here is a picture of what i am talking about
CoilBindRemedy.jpg?t=1282084397
If you notice though it says to grease the areas in green to prevent noise. When I removed them they did not seem to have any grease at all. I am going to reinstall everything and grease it up a bunch and see how it goes. I may also try to make a rubber gasket to go on the very top of the strut between the strut and the car frame. The metal on metal contact could be causing noise as well.
CoilBindRemedy.jpg?t=1282084397
If you notice though it says to grease the areas in green to prevent noise. When I removed them they did not seem to have any grease at all. I am going to reinstall everything and grease it up a bunch and see how it goes. I may also try to make a rubber gasket to go on the very top of the strut between the strut and the car frame. The metal on metal contact could be causing noise as well.
#13
Looking forward to the results of your trial. Presumably this is significantly easier than it looks from the diagram you included as your noise (I believe) is just coming from the rear shock? (I.e. no spring to remove). There wouldn't be all of the same areas to grease on the rear shock (no lower spring mount or upper spring seat etc), so I am guessing you are just going to grease the pillow ball bearings?
As for making a rubber gasket, when I changed the rear shocks, I reused that paper gasket that was on the old shocks and I have made sure that the shocks are securely bolted to the chassis mounts. Since my noise started after a few thousand KM, I don't believe it is due to the shock/body mount.
As for making a rubber gasket, when I changed the rear shocks, I reused that paper gasket that was on the old shocks and I have made sure that the shocks are securely bolted to the chassis mounts. Since my noise started after a few thousand KM, I don't believe it is due to the shock/body mount.