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Old 12-05-2010, 08:33 AM
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Does neg camber make your steering wheel shake

hey guys im just wondering if anyone who is lowered with 20's experiencing steering wheel shake at 60-80mph my tire guy balanced the wheels liek 6 times (road force)

i had the hub rings swapped out 4 times and the wheel runout test shows no abnormalities. just wondering if neg camber up front or rear would do this? any help would be appreciated thank you

ps: here is a pic of my alignment stats

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The vehicle runs negative camber straight from the factory. Its part of a sport tuned suspension. Camber will not cause your steering wheel to shake. Vibrations from certain speeds is usually a direct result of unbalaced wheels and tires or improper torqueing of lug nuts. Are you using plastic or metal rings?? Ive never had luck with those plastic type hub rings. If i run my wheels up front without metal hub rings or with the plastic rings, i get vibrations. If i put the metal rings in, i get nice and smooth driving.
Old 12-05-2010, 11:19 AM
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Your camber is not even that bad. That is not the problem.
Old 12-05-2010, 11:40 AM
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You answered your own question in the last round.

You stated
"oem wheels have no shake! its got to be the wheel setup"
Old 12-05-2010, 08:24 PM
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ya we road force balance the wheels and did a wheel run out test both perfect 0 so idk why it would be doing that, what is the proper torque spec? and where can i get metal hub rings?
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I do 80 ft lbs

Start by hand tightening the lug nuts, then go to 20, then 40, then 80.

DO NOT use an impact.
DO NOT torque the wheels with the car weight on them. Leave car in the air, have someone push the brake pedal to keep from spinning.
Old 12-05-2010, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TVPostSound
I do 80 ft lbs

Start by hand tightening the lug nuts, then go to 20, then 40, then 80.

DO NOT use an impact.
DO NOT torque the wheels with the car weight on them. Leave car in the air, have someone push the brake pedal to keep from spinning.
And why not? i hand tighten as tight as i can, then i lower the car (not all the way) but enough so the wheel wont spin as i tighten,
Old 12-05-2010, 10:30 PM
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your rotors might be a little warped -- that causes shaking as ewll
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Originally Posted by Steveo47
And why not? i hand tighten as tight as i can, then i lower the car (not all the way) but enough so the wheel wont spin as i tighten,
To be sure the wheel is as perfectly centered as possible.

Im running 20mm spacers, and have no vibration so far up to 120mph!!
Old 12-06-2010, 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by TVPostSound
To be sure the wheel is as perfectly centered as possible.

Im running 20mm spacers, and have no vibration so far up to 120mph!!
Which spacers are you running?
Old 12-06-2010, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by TVPostSound
I do 80 ft lbs

DO NOT torque the wheels with the car weight on them. Leave car in the air, have someone push the brake pedal to keep from spinning.
hmm...I never thought of this....but I always have set the car partially on the ground to keep the wheels from spinning. Never thought about having someone press the brakes to keep the wheel perfectly centered, but at the same time, you're not really "holding the wheel up" when you're torquing them on either to keep them centered. The wheel is hanging.
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Originally Posted by | 1cleanG |
hmm...I never thought of this....but I always have set the car partially on the ground to keep the wheels from spinning. Never thought about having someone press the brakes to keep the wheel perfectly centered, but at the same time, you're not really "holding the wheel up" when you're torquing them on either to keep them centered. The wheel is hanging.
Its only the weight of the wheel, not any weight of the car.
Old 12-10-2010, 11:13 AM
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Hey You know what you gotta do with your wheels?
you gotta do these three things, and I gurantee its gonna get fixed.

Index Tires
Road Force Balance
High speed on car balance.

Total cost about 250 dollar from very reputable shop, but it is worth it.
No matter how many times you do road force, it does not solve the problem.

And from the your older posts, I could see that you are a very negative person. I am not trying to start arguement with you but you should calm down little bit.

I can't tell you how to live, but I can tell you that it doesn't look good.

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Old 12-16-2010, 11:26 PM
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I never understood this but why aren't the camber and toe values symetrics?
Old 12-17-2010, 02:52 AM
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jarena2104

I know youre banned, but can still read these posts.

I had some time to kill while waiting for a producer, and wasted 30 minutes of my life reading your previous posts spread across this forum.

Bottom line:

You NEVER complained about vibration with Vossen wheels, until you installed spacers.

12 pages of drama during your offset freakout, never do you complain about vibration.
Driving 250 miles to settle your coilovers, never do you complain about a vibration.
A lot of whining with noise, but no vibration.

I think you issue has been resolved.




Now Sam can lock THIS thread!!!
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