TPMS? a must have?
09-30-2010, 11:54 PM
#32
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The TPMS also would be required to include a malfunction indicator to alert the driver when the system is nonoperational and, thus, unable to provide the required low tire pressure warning.
The NPRM proposed that TPMS malfunction could be indicated by either:
(1) Installing a separate, dedicated telltale (yellow) that illuminates upon detection of the malfunction and
remains continuously illuminated as long as the ignition locking system is in the ‘‘On’’ (‘‘Run’’) position and the
situation causing the malfunction remains uncorrected, or
(2) Designing the low tire pressure telltale so that it flashes for one minute when a malfunction is detected, after
which the telltale would remain illuminated as long as the ignition locking system is in the ‘‘On’’ (’’Run’’)
position. This flashing and illumination sequence would be repeated upon each subsequent vehicle start-up until the
situation causing the malfunction has been corrected.
If the option for a separate telltale is selected, the TPMS malfunction telltale would be required to perform a bulbcheck
at vehicle start-up.
The NPRM proposed that TPMS malfunction could be indicated by either:
(1) Installing a separate, dedicated telltale (yellow) that illuminates upon detection of the malfunction and
remains continuously illuminated as long as the ignition locking system is in the ‘‘On’’ (‘‘Run’’) position and the
situation causing the malfunction remains uncorrected, or
(2) Designing the low tire pressure telltale so that it flashes for one minute when a malfunction is detected, after
which the telltale would remain illuminated as long as the ignition locking system is in the ‘‘On’’ (’’Run’’)
position. This flashing and illumination sequence would be repeated upon each subsequent vehicle start-up until the
situation causing the malfunction has been corrected.
If the option for a separate telltale is selected, the TPMS malfunction telltale would be required to perform a bulbcheck
at vehicle start-up.
And as to the second article, just ask any law abiding tire dealer and they will say that federal law prevents them from disconnecting the TPMS light. It’s no different from disabling other safety devices like air bags, seat belts, etc., it is illegal to do so.
Now you can do what others do around here, i.e., take a position that it doesn’t matter if a mod is illegal or not, or if the owner will ever be caught. But please don’t deny the legality of such actions. It’s argumentative to a fault.
10-01-2010, 06:45 AM
#33
So show me the law. Like I said, I couldn't find anything in the link you provided. And I'd rather not go by what some guy in a tire store says, or some guy who writes an article and says it's illegal.
10-01-2010, 08:04 AM
#35
It's not a big fuss at all. I just want to know for sure whether or not it is illegal. I've already disabled a few TPMS systems on friend's vehicles and I want to know if I'm breaking the law. So far I haven't seen anything that proves it is illegal, other than a random guy saying that it is....
10-01-2010, 08:08 AM
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10-01-2010, 08:09 AM
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10-01-2010, 08:17 AM
#40
And I'm quite sure that's exactly why tire shop owners won't do it, regardless of whether or not it's against the law or not. It's just easier for them to say they won't do it because it's illegal.
On my own vehicle, I wouldn't hesitate to disable the TPMS.
10-01-2010, 10:55 AM
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It's really up to you. I purchased Vossens and opted out in buying TPMS for them....i just check my air pressure every now and then. The only downside is you get that stinking light on your dash.
10-01-2010, 01:12 PM
#42
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It's not a big fuss at all. I just want to know for sure whether or not it is illegal. I've already disabled a few TPMS systems on friend's vehicles and I want to know if I'm breaking the law. So far I haven't seen anything that proves it is illegal, other than a random guy saying that it is....
Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards; Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems; Controls and Displays
Now you may want to respond by saying that doesn’t prevent anyone from disabling it, and I would say that’s nonsense. With such a view an owner could disconnect other safety items as mentioned in the second article:
“The bottom line is consumers and tire dealers are not given the option of disabling the TPMS just like neither can remove a catalytic converter, the air bags, or the seat belts.”
If you want to believe the Tire Industry Association is not a reliable source, then there’s nothing I care to say to convince you otherwise.
That’s all I can offer at this time, as it serves no purpose to argue with you further. You’re free to believe what you want regardless of the evidence to the contrary.
10-01-2010, 02:59 PM
#43
Chekov,
Don't you realize that the link you provided is basically a set of rules for vehicle manufacturers to follow regarding the implementation of TPMS? It in no way proves that it is against the law for a vehicle owner to disable their own TPMS.
You said it was illegal to disable it and then posted links as proof. All I'm asking you is where to find the "proof" in your links. I haven't found anything even close to proof. What law is it that explicitly states the TPMS can't be disabled?
Sorry, but I need something concrete, not a quote by some random guy that supposedly works in the tire industry. If I'm wrong about the law, it should be easy enough to prove. But as of right now, I'm not convinced. I don't believe everything everyone tells me....do you? Sometimes I need to see the evidence for myself.
Don't you realize that the link you provided is basically a set of rules for vehicle manufacturers to follow regarding the implementation of TPMS? It in no way proves that it is against the law for a vehicle owner to disable their own TPMS.
You said it was illegal to disable it and then posted links as proof. All I'm asking you is where to find the "proof" in your links. I haven't found anything even close to proof. What law is it that explicitly states the TPMS can't be disabled?
Sorry, but I need something concrete, not a quote by some random guy that supposedly works in the tire industry. If I'm wrong about the law, it should be easy enough to prove. But as of right now, I'm not convinced. I don't believe everything everyone tells me....do you? Sometimes I need to see the evidence for myself.
10-01-2010, 04:09 PM
#45
Opposite side of the country. I think my screen name tends to mislead you west coast guys.
But anyway, I still haven't figured out how to disable the light on the G yet. I almost have it figured out, but the schematics I was given don't have everything I need to do it. At this point, I could probably figure it out by trial and error, but I don't really want to start grounding wires when I'm not 100% sure what they are.
But anyway, I still haven't figured out how to disable the light on the G yet. I almost have it figured out, but the schematics I was given don't have everything I need to do it. At this point, I could probably figure it out by trial and error, but I don't really want to start grounding wires when I'm not 100% sure what they are.