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Old 02-11-2020, 08:20 AM
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The boxes themselves are labeled, but otherwise there's no obvious indication which side they go on, except to look at the cooling vanes. You make a reasonable point about this. Pretty harmless assist to the mechanic if I put a note directly on each rotor for the install.

With conventional wisdom I'm assuming the internal vanes should be angled towards forward direction, and not away from it, correct?

Wait... google... it's actually the other way? What the heck?



This allows the rotor to “naturally” generate a vacuum effect that will pump air throughout the rotor which helps its cooling efficiency.


"vacuum effect" Hmm.

Anyway, I wrote to Z1 just now for clarification.

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Old 02-11-2020, 09:53 AM
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John,
You read correctly. The rotors should be "Throwing" the air outward when spinning.


Welp, learned something today. The directional vanes inside the rotors should be swept *back* toward the rear of the car, just like this image here:

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Originally Posted by Rochester
The boxes themselves are labeled, but otherwise there's no obvious indication which side they go on, except to look at the cooling vanes. You make a reasonable point about this. Pretty harmless assist to the mechanic if I put a note directly on each rotor for the install.

With conventional wisdom I'm assuming the internal vanes should be angled towards forward direction, and not away from it, correct?

Wait... google... it's actually the other way? What the heck?





"vacuum effect" Hmm.

Anyway, I wrote to Z1 just now for clarification.
Glad to hear that Z1 is labeling their boxes now. When I got my slotted rotors there were no labels of any kind to tell you which side they were for. The really confusing part about the slotted rotors is that the slots go in the opposite direction of the cooling vanes so my rotors look to me like they are backwards because the slots angle forward. I called Spencer at Z1 to make sure I was putting them on the right way and told him they should label these things. I guess they finally got the message.
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Originally Posted by 4DRZ
Glad to hear that Z1 is labeling their boxes now. When I got my slotted rotors there were no labels of any kind to tell you which side they were for. The really confusing part about the slotted rotors is that the slots go in the opposite direction of the cooling vanes so my rotors look to me like they are backwards because the slots angle forward. I called Spencer at Z1 to make sure I was putting them on the right way and told him they should label these things. I guess they finally got the message.
Well, the rotors themselves aren't marked for left-side, right-side. Obviously the fronts are different than the rears, but there's nothing indicating which side of the car they go. Seems they're putting stickers on the boxes themselves (below). But what if you take them out of the box and decorate your dining room with them for the winter?



And when you do that, there's no guarantee you put them back into the boxes they came from. So yeah, the rotors should be marked, and for the mechanic I'm going to put some masking tape on them for Driver Front, Driver Rear, Passenger Front, Passenger Rear.

Not to be obtuse, but I've always got stuck on "left" and "right", unsure if that means left when facing the car, or left when sitting in it.

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When it comes to auto parts, the sides are determined by the position of the driver in the vehicle, facing forward.


OK, I just have to get over this and get it solid in my head that left side is drivers side, and that's all there is to it.

My first senior moment, I swear.
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Originally Posted by Rochester
Well, the rotors themselves aren't marked for left-side, right-side. Obviously the fronts are different than the rears, but there's nothing indicating which side of the car they go. Seems they're putting stickers on the boxes themselves (below). But what if you take them out of the box and decorate your dining room with them for the winter?



And when you do that, there's no guarantee you put them back into the boxes they came from. So yeah, the rotors should be marked, and for the mechanic I'm going to put some masking tape on them for Driver Front, Driver Rear, Passenger Front, Passenger Rear.

Not to be obtuse, but I've always got stuck on "left" and "right", unsure if that means left when facing the car, or left when sitting in it.

The fact that they clearly label the boxes now would have saved me so much time before. Think of right and left as if sitting in the car. Left hand drive would be our cars with the steering wheel on the left.
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OK, now I got this covered.

No surprises, and I'm solid that I've got the correct rotors for the appropriate sides of the car. Marked up the boxes and the rotors themselves for the install.

Oh, and nobody gets to mock my wife's tablecloth.


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Originally Posted by 4DRZ
Looks nice Rochester! Should be a good improvement in appearance and performance. It does look a lot cleaner without the brake calipers- you should try it that way first. Are your rotors labeled for which side to install them? My slotted rotors look like they are on backwards because the cooling vanes go in the opposite direction. Strange design.
The sprinkle slots don't really look off, but I have the same regular slotted rotors as you. I've just gotten used to them and I kinda like them that way now.

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Placed one of the rear rotors on the floor, on a stack of books. Then I put the rear wheel over the rotor, and dropped in the lugnuts for good measure.

I suppose this is what the rear will look like, (if the calipers were invisible.)


Totally Badass!
that combination looks clean and tight. Well done!
it's going to be stellar on your car.

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Old 02-16-2020, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bPChaos
The sprinkle slots don't really look off, but I have the same regular slotted rotors as you. I've just gotten used to them and I kinda like them that way now.

Looking sharp.
Yes, that's the way the slots should be oriented. Even more-so because the internal cooling veins should be oriented towards the rear of the car.
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Originally Posted by 4DRZ
The fact that they clearly label the boxes now would have saved me so much time before. Think of right and left as if sitting in the car. Left hand drive would be our cars with the steering wheel on the left.
I agree. The rotor RINGs should be marked F/R D/P front/rear driver/passenger.
no point in marking the hats, as they are interchangeable.
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OK, I just have to get over this and get it solid in my head that left side is drivers side, and that's all there is to it.

My first senior moment, I swear.
Unless you have a JDM vehicle!
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Why'd you delete that post. I had to google wutang, LOL

Is that a wrap or a hydrodip? When do they go on the car?
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Originally Posted by Rochester
Why'd you delete that post. I had to google wutang, LOL

Is that a wrap or a hydrodip? When do they go on the car?
Hahaha. Yeah they're a safety enhancement organization. They specialize in Protect ya neck.

The parts are painted, hydrodipped & clear coated by Maincoast customs.
Installation in 2-3weeks or whenever I get some time!

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Originally Posted by bPChaos
The sprinkle slots don't really look off, but I have the same regular slotted rotors as you. I've just gotten used to them and I kinda like them that way now.

Remind me again why your rims have 2 valve stems. Did it have something to do with bleeding out the air to force in nitrogen?


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