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Old 04-02-2013, 08:01 PM
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Custom Brake Cooling Duct

I started on a little project, took longer than I expected, and definitely drove my wife crazy. But now its all done. Just wanted to share some pictures with you guys.

Made out of 6xxx series Aluminum. 2x splash shields. Which will fit directly between steering column and wheel hup.


A closer view, it was dark and flat black is definitely not photo friendly. To step bend the aluminum was real challenge. To give room for the rotor.


Fabricated Flanges and painted flat black as well.


Splash Shield mounted, fit little tight but went in without too much struggle.


I ran duct around back of sus. About 6 1/2 feet of duct per brake.


Duct Mounted to the Flanges. Picture of the dark side. All ugly


Tried to fit hose between the sway bar and the chassis. Did not work. Was too tight.


But settled for running the hose next to sway bars. There is about 1 1/2" room, vs 2 1/2" if you run through the sway bars. About 1 - 2 inches right in front where sway bars is where the tire will rub the hose, if they run next to the chassis. Bit of a challenge to run slightly under, but will not rub the tires. And even with 9.5" wheel no rubbing.Even on a full lock.


Hose when the wheel is fully locked


Back side where the hose meets the shield.


I Cant find another way to run the hose. It is tighter than what I had imagined.


Zip tied the splash shield onto the steering column, so that it wont buckle when I turn the wheel.


Flange mounted, I wasn't fan of Flat Black. But I am starting to like it.


Flat black requires better lighting with my phone camera.


Out in the Sun Light


Shadow


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Old 04-02-2013, 08:34 PM
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cool little project. i know that the tubing is for function purposes, but might be better if you replaced the duct tape area with new tubing. i doubt the tape will hold up to moisture very well.

notice any difference in braking performance?
Old 04-02-2013, 09:07 PM
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Very well done sir.
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Old 04-03-2013, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Betty
Very well done sir.
thank you
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hahahahahahahahahahah LOLLOLOLOLOL
Old 04-04-2013, 12:45 PM
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very nice
Old 04-04-2013, 01:51 PM
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Looks like you really thought this out, nice fit on the bumper inserts too
Any problems w/ hose interference, especially going lock to lock?
I assume you must put your brakes through hell, have you noticed significant brake performance?
Nice work!
Old 04-04-2013, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by shivers
very nice
thank you
Originally Posted by blnewt
Looks like you really thought this out, nice fit on the bumper inserts too
Any problems w/ hose interference, especially going lock to lock?
I assume you must put your brakes through hell, have you noticed significant brake performance?
Nice work!
Steering feel is the same after all done. However to get to that point was quite challenging.

I will be talking about the driver side wheel Only. Guess passenger side will be exact opposite. When the steering wheel is fully locked on right hand turn, the splash shield hose will pull the hose extending the hose. Now when on a full left hand turn lock, the hose will get compressed. to get the hose length just right is bit challenging, cause if too long, when compressed the back side of the wheel will rub the hose. If too short, not enough hose when the wheel turn pulls the hose.

Also about 3-4 inches to the front of the vehicle, where sway bar brackets are positioned. When the wheel is fully locked for right hand turn. Is the point closest to the inner part of the tire to the hose. Found just enough room if you run the hose just under the chassis will be flush against the inner well and will have about an inch gap between the tire and the hose.



With my 9.5" width wheel and 245/40/19 tires, about 1" gap on full lock in both directions.

I frequently go to a racing track, and yes I have problem with brake fade. Like all cars do. For common track cars like S2K, Evo, STI, and etc. There is commercial available kits. However for Touring car like our G37 it is not available. Well closest one would be the Stillen brake duct kit for 370Z, Have not tried but assumed there was many modification to be made. Also Stillen kit was way above my budget. Found sources online where I could get the parts cheaper, which will better fit my budget. So I was pretty much on my own. Made lot of research, tried a lot and failed like wise. But in the end I did make this work. Driving my wife, two daughters crazy. But my son was right beside me from start to finish. Learned a lot, didn't have a clue when I began. But I am pretty satisfied now. Thank you for your kind words.

Well my next track event is May 4 at Chuckwalla Raceway Park. Where about same time last year. I struggled keeping up with GTS after several laps, when the brakes started to fade. Will post some pictures after the event. And my full review coming soon.

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Very nice diy!
Old 04-04-2013, 03:18 PM
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I think alot more time and effort was put into this than it is actually worth...

I don't think your going to be feeling any sort of difference in regards to braking...but its not always about quantitative results... sometimes its just mental.
Old 04-04-2013, 03:40 PM
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instead of using Duct tape, try getting hose clamps at home depot (like this one Dodge Magnum - Powered Brake Ducts), and tight them down, then spray them redish hoses black
But other than that good DIY
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Originally Posted by Can'tGme
Very nice diy!
thank you
Originally Posted by mystikal
instead of using Duct tape, try getting hose clamps at home depot (like this one Dodge Magnum - Powered Brake Ducts), and tight them down, then spray them redish hoses black
But other than that good DIY
I do agree with you. So duct taped over the silicone hose. And secured with Non-Keyed Bridge Hose Clamps. Picture below.

Now required however silicone hose does not come pre-cut. They are sold either 3', 13', or 24' feet in length. I used Duct taped because before cutting recommended by the manufacturer, so you don't scratch the silicone hose while cutting the hose with hack saw. Left there because I think extra layer of tape over the silicone hose before clamping will not hurt.

Also I do not recommend hose clamp from Home Depot, rather Bridge Hose Clamps, made especially for the metal wire silicone hoses. They will bridge and pass over the metal wire so a better air tight seal when all clamped to the piping.





I guess you didnt see this picture same as above
Old 04-05-2013, 01:51 PM
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but why still use the duct tape though? Was it not tighten enough to hold?
(I didn't see it, my eyes were stuck to the duck tape )
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Originally Posted by mystikal
but why still use the duct tape though? Was it not tighten enough to hold?
(I didn't see it, my eyes were stuck to the duck tape )
Before cutting the hose in half, which by the way came 13' foot in length. I used duct tape so I don't scratch the pipe while cutting with hack saw.

I didn't remove it because its just another layer over the hose. I don't think it will hurt, when all is clamped to the aluminum pipe.

No fitment issues, with or without duct tape.
Old 04-05-2013, 07:56 PM
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