Rear Sway Bar Upgrade
#31
Here's some comparison pics of the rear sways that I mic'd, the cleaner one is the S sway, and it mic'd thinner but probably just the dirt on the journey sway, they were the same OD.
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10Gee37exeS (10-13-2013)
#32
Awesome! Thanks for the pics! I did some due diligence too..I pulled the part numbers of the rear sway/stabilizer bars and compared them which, basically, confirms all the AWD RSB are the same for the Journey/non-Sport/Sport and all the RWD Journey/non-Sport/Sport are the same. So therefore in conclusion, the non-Sport and Sport RSB are 24.2mm; as confirmed above by blnewt Also the brackets and links are the same eventho the bushings aren't.
2009 Sport
56230JK000 AWD
562301EA0C RWD Sedan
2009 Non-Sport
56230JK000 AWD
562301EA0C RWD Sedan
2009 Journey
56230JK000 AWD
562301EA0C RWD Sedan
2010 Sport
56230JK000 AWD
562301EA0C RWD Sedan
2010 Non-Sport
56230JK000 AWD
562301EA0C RWD sedan
2010 Journey
56230JK000 AWD
562301EA0C RWD sedan
Bracket
L: 54614EG000 R: 54614EG000 AWD
L: 54614EG000 R: 54614EG000 RWD
Link
L: 54668EG02B R: 54618EG02A AWD
L: 54668EG02B R: 54618EG02A RWD
2009 Sport
56230JK000 AWD
562301EA0C RWD Sedan
2009 Non-Sport
56230JK000 AWD
562301EA0C RWD Sedan
2009 Journey
56230JK000 AWD
562301EA0C RWD Sedan
2010 Sport
56230JK000 AWD
562301EA0C RWD Sedan
2010 Non-Sport
56230JK000 AWD
562301EA0C RWD sedan
2010 Journey
56230JK000 AWD
562301EA0C RWD sedan
Bracket
L: 54614EG000 R: 54614EG000 AWD
L: 54614EG000 R: 54614EG000 RWD
Link
L: 54668EG02B R: 54618EG02A AWD
L: 54668EG02B R: 54618EG02A RWD
Last edited by 10Gee37exeS; 10-13-2013 at 01:01 AM.
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Coltrane1 (03-25-2017)
#34
LOL, definitely unintentional, plus it's not like we're talking any significant cash. And changing out the sways was another thing I learned how to do with these cars so it was a good lesson
Like you mentioned, if I was bone stock and switched the sways the difference may have been more substantial as well.
Like you mentioned, if I was bone stock and switched the sways the difference may have been more substantial as well.
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Rochester (10-13-2013)
#35
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Sorry to say, the diameter numbers don't mean a whole lot. Internal thickness determines the spring rate of the bar. That makes it a more apples/apples comparison. To further complicate things, is the spring rate linear or variable. If the latter, then it's more like strawberries to watermelons comparison
#36
Sorry to say, the diameter numbers don't mean a whole lot. Internal thickness determines the spring rate of the bar. That makes it a more apples/apples comparison. To further complicate things, is the spring rate linear or variable. If the latter, then it's more like strawberries to watermelons comparison
The substantial improvement noted from those that have done the swap from the S sways to Whiteline, Eibach & Hotchkiss shows that the S sways are big step down.
It would be interesting knowing the wall thickness differences between both Infiniti sways though
#37
Sorry to say, the diameter numbers don't mean a whole lot. Internal thickness determines the spring rate of the bar. That makes it a more apples/apples comparison. To further complicate things, is the spring rate linear or variable. If the latter, then it's more like strawberries to watermelons comparison
Last edited by 10Gee37exeS; 10-14-2013 at 09:54 AM.
#38
OK. This is just a hypothesis. I think if Infiniti were to make a "softer" bar, they would make a thinner bar (i.e. AWD RSB of 17.7mm) instead of one with the same diameter and differing internal thicknesses. Also, I think if the RWD RSBs were different in any way, they wouldn't list them as the same part #s for both Sport and non-Sport. Plus, in my case, ANYTHING will probably be better than the 17.7mm RSB of my AWD...Hopefully one of the best $40 I'll spend on my G....
It is. The rwd sway on my x is one of the best upgrades I made to the car!
#39
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My comments relate to sway bars in general. From an engineering stand point, weight doesn't correlate to spring rates either. Cheaper materials may be heavier but have weaker spring rates. While comparisons of weights and diameters can be done, IMO they are flawed comparisons. What's really needed are spring rates and whether or not they are static or progressive to make accurate comparisons.
#41
My comments relate to sway bars in general. From an engineering stand point, weight doesn't correlate to spring rates either. Cheaper materials may be heavier but have weaker spring rates. While comparisons of weights and diameters can be done, IMO they are flawed comparisons. What's really needed are spring rates and whether or not they are static or progressive to make accurate comparisons.
#42
10Gee37exeS, how about looking up the part #'s on struts and springs.
#43
I tried to look them up but seems like for shocks and springs you have to give them a call to order. So it kinda looks like it's primarily the Springs/Struts/Shocks that put's the "S" in Sport. But I can't confirm these allegations i make....
#44
I'm guessing there's slight changes in spring rates w/ the sways, springs and possibly damping stiffness, that when taken as a whole would make a more noticeable change, but as individual parts not so much. I do know that the ride is firmer in the Sport as I have driven both back to back at the dealer when I bought both my previous Gs.
I doubt the RWD sways are the same since the part #s stamped on my 2 sways are different.
I doubt the RWD sways are the same since the part #s stamped on my 2 sways are different.
#45
I'm guessing there's slight changes in spring rates w/ the sways, springs and possibly damping stiffness, that when taken as a whole would make a more noticeable change, but as individual parts not so much. I do know that the ride is firmer in the Sport as I have driven both back to back at the dealer when I bought both my previous Gs.
I doubt the RWD sways are the same since the part #s stamped on my 2 sways are different.
I doubt the RWD sways are the same since the part #s stamped on my 2 sways are different.