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Old 12-21-2010 | 06:32 PM
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Optimum No Rinse (ONR) is not infallible

So last night I decided to clean the salt off my car with ONR. To give you an idea of what I was working with, I had a slight dusting by the wheel wells, front and rear of the car.

I used two buckets with grit guards, with plenty of ONR concentrate. I took my time, going over each panel about three times, to make sure I lightly removed the salt each time.

This morning, with the sun shining on my car, I noticed minute scratch marks all along the car. I'm hoping the scratch shield paint will diminish the marks, or I may have to pay someone to polish the car. Needless to say, I'm ******* pissed off about it.

The point is don't use ONR if you got salt on the car. Do a regular wash or go to a self-service station and blast it with water.
Old 12-21-2010 | 06:41 PM
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Sorry to hear about that...
On the bright side.. I put a light scratch on my car last time when claying it...
Now i'm at work and the car is sitting in the sun. I just went to check and i believe it is healed by the "self-healing paint" *cross fingers*

ps: you shouldn't "blast" water on a dirty car regardless..
The pressure from the hose will only push the grits into the clearcoat and damage it.
Old 12-21-2010 | 08:04 PM
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imho nothing can prevent swirls.

just looking at your car gives it swirls
Old 12-21-2010 | 08:06 PM
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I would agree with Neal...salt on the car(or heavy dirt for that matter) will induce swirls whether you wash normally or use ONR. It's like the sports analogy:

"You can't stop swirls and marring...you can only hope to contain them".
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what was the wash medium used?
did you rinse off the "feelable" salt before you ONR washed it?
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Originally Posted by jujubii
what was the wash medium used?
did you rinse off the "feelable" salt before you ONR washed it?
I thought its Optimum "No-Rinse" lol

Thank you for the review, but I'm still going to give ONR a try to see whats up.
Old 12-22-2010 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Legz
Thank you for the review, but I'm still going to give ONR a try to see whats up.
I think I'll wait for your review on this before I try it on my car.
Old 12-22-2010 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Legz
I thought its Optimum "No-Rinse" lol

Thank you for the review, but I'm still going to give ONR a try to see whats up.
i asked BEFORE he applied ONR. the No-Rinse refers to the unnecessary rinsing after the scrubdown/sudding part of a wash.
i asked if rinsed off the feel-able salt before doing the ONR wash because trying to wash off salt (that your fingers can feel) with a mitt or something could possibly push the grain against the clear/paint. it would only make sense to spray off what can come off first anyways...
Old 12-25-2010 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jujubii
what was the wash medium used?
did you rinse off the "feelable" salt before you ONR washed it?
no, i didn't rinse it off before i ONR'd it, only b/c i dont have access to running water in my apartment complex.

if i had running water i would just do an ol'fashioned car wash, with suds and all.

so ONR has been great to me for the past year, except for this one salty experience. and i was *very* light on the salt parts and went over it three times to minimize scratching.

hope this helps.
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try buying some turtlewax rubbing compound (comes in a black bottle) to get rid of light scratches.
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Originally Posted by jujubii
i asked BEFORE he applied ONR. the No-Rinse refers to the unnecessary rinsing after the scrubdown/sudding part of a wash.
i asked if rinsed off the feel-able salt before doing the ONR wash because trying to wash off salt (that your fingers can feel) with a mitt or something could possibly push the grain against the clear/paint. it would only make sense to spray off what can come off first anyways...
so what is the proper way of using ONR? i live in S.cal, so no snow or salt here. do i still need to rinse before ONR?
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so what is the proper way of using ONR? i live in S.cal, so no snow or salt here. do i still need to rinse before ONR?
i generally use it on a dry surface because im just too lazy to rinse... but he was talking about salt and stuff thats why i asked.

2 buckets... 1oz of onr 2gal water in 1 bucket, the other bucket is just water (for rinsing)
wash mitt in onr bucket and just wipe away
rinse out dirtyness in water bucket
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great. that's what i thought. thanks.
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Originally Posted by TheIvoryG
I would agree with Neal...salt on the car(or heavy dirt for that matter) will induce swirls whether you wash normally or use ONR. It's like the sports analogy:

"You can't stop swirls and marring...you can only hope to contain them".
That's exactly why I rinse the hell out of my vehicle when it has salt on it BEFORE I wash it. A really good rinse can get all the salt crystal off (or dissolve them) and I don't have to worry about grinding them into the paint.

Either way though, I don't trust ONR to clean my paint without scratching.
Old 12-26-2010 | 01:13 PM
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If you are going to use the 2 bucket system with ONR, I'd recommend having at least some ONR in the rinse bucket. If not, you risk diluting your ONR solution thus limiting its abilitiies.



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