Review AutoKits "Rear Valence Lip"
09-24-2009, 06:03 PM
#62
Im a bit confused. Is there a difference between this thread "rear valance lip", and the teaser rear valance thread? Is there an additional lip to fit the bigger tip exhaust or is this the same exact thing, one valance?
Is there going to be a group buy price, similiar to the grills you guys had for sale?
Is there going to be a group buy price, similiar to the grills you guys had for sale?
09-24-2009, 08:11 PM
#63
That's exactly what I would want to do. That brings up questions about paint. What would work best? Satin black paint and clear coat, satin black paint and no clear coat, black paint with a satin clear coat? Do you clear over the carbon fiber or not? Does the carbon fiber take well to being clear coated? Will heat from the exhaust tips be a concern? So many things to think about to get it right.
09-24-2009, 08:46 PM
#65
Is this correct? If so, that is pretty bad azz and a very well thought out design option. I'm impressed.
That's exactly what I would want to do. That brings up questions about paint. What would work best? Satin black paint and clear coat, satin black paint and no clear coat, black paint with a satin clear coat? Do you clear over the carbon fiber or not? Does the carbon fiber take well to being clear coated? Will heat from the exhaust tips be a concern? So many things to think about to get it right.
That's exactly what I would want to do. That brings up questions about paint. What would work best? Satin black paint and clear coat, satin black paint and no clear coat, black paint with a satin clear coat? Do you clear over the carbon fiber or not? Does the carbon fiber take well to being clear coated? Will heat from the exhaust tips be a concern? So many things to think about to get it right.
I had a full carbon fiber rear valance on my G35. I did not clear it but after 2 years it was still fine. Heat didnt affect it at all.
09-24-2009, 10:12 PM
#66
Do you think the clear coat would be effected by the heat? I guess it all depends on how much heat and how close the tips are. Dual walled tips typically run cooler that single wall. Smaller diameter tips are going to have more room than the larger diameter tips obviously. I put the Greddy SE exhaust on Her car and the tips are dual walled (and awesome!) so I should be good to go.
I was wondering what would look better, satin black paint with a clear over everything or the black paint with a matte clear over everything. It all comes down to how you want the carbon fiber to look, shiny or dull. I think your plan is dead on and will look killer.
09-25-2009, 08:20 AM
#67
Do you think the clear coat would be effected by the heat? I guess it all depends on how much heat and how close the tips are. Dual walled tips typically run cooler that single wall. Smaller diameter tips are going to have more room than the larger diameter tips obviously. I put the Greddy SE exhaust on Her car and the tips are dual walled (and awesome!) so I should be good to go.
I was wondering what would look better, satin black paint with a clear over everything or the black paint with a matte clear over everything. It all comes down to how you want the carbon fiber to look, shiny or dull. I think your plan is dead on and will look killer.
I was wondering what would look better, satin black paint with a clear over everything or the black paint with a matte clear over everything. It all comes down to how you want the carbon fiber to look, shiny or dull. I think your plan is dead on and will look killer.
Plus when places bake the paint, they cure it at 160 F for 40-60 minutes. The clear will be fine.
If you do a black satin paint with a regular clear, it is going to come out glossy.
I plan on having my exhaust tips coated with black high temp paint as well.
If you want glossy cf, easiest thing is just to not clear the cf at all. The resin usually has a uv resitant additave anyways.
09-25-2009, 03:44 PM
#71
I figure the paint above the tips has clear on it now, so why would clear on cf be any different? I do not want super shiny cf. It is why I am having the whole thing covered with a satin clear.
Plus when places bake the paint, they cure it at 160 F for 40-60 minutes. The clear will be fine.
If you do a black satin paint with a regular clear, it is going to come out glossy.
I plan on having my exhaust tips coated with black high temp paint as well.
If you want glossy cf, easiest thing is just to not clear the cf at all. The resin usually has a uv resitant additave anyways.
Plus when places bake the paint, they cure it at 160 F for 40-60 minutes. The clear will be fine.
If you do a black satin paint with a regular clear, it is going to come out glossy.
I plan on having my exhaust tips coated with black high temp paint as well.
If you want glossy cf, easiest thing is just to not clear the cf at all. The resin usually has a uv resitant additave anyways.
I'm really looking forward to seeing this done. If fitment is pretty good, I would be doing the exact same cover in the same paint scheme almost right away.
09-25-2009, 04:10 PM
#72
Clear coating CF for exterior parts is always the best bet.
No matter what epoxy/polyester/polyurethane system that is used for the CF, it will yellow. Yellowing is inevitable. With UV packages, you are only delaying the inevitable.
Especially with epoxy systems, it will chalk over time. This is from the UV + Heat slowly destroying the system.
My advise is, either clear coat it glossy or matte (yes, there are matte finish clear coats available).
Also, with a clear coat, you can wax your CF like you normally would with standard car waxes.
Clear coating CF parts is a bit difficult for the beginners. I suggest taking it to a well known paint shop to take care of it for you.
This is true for both "Dry" (pre-impregnated) and "Wet" lay carbon fiber.
If you would like to know more about paint, CF, or coatings, feel free to PM me your questions.
No matter what epoxy/polyester/polyurethane system that is used for the CF, it will yellow. Yellowing is inevitable. With UV packages, you are only delaying the inevitable.
Especially with epoxy systems, it will chalk over time. This is from the UV + Heat slowly destroying the system.
My advise is, either clear coat it glossy or matte (yes, there are matte finish clear coats available).
Also, with a clear coat, you can wax your CF like you normally would with standard car waxes.
Clear coating CF parts is a bit difficult for the beginners. I suggest taking it to a well known paint shop to take care of it for you.
This is true for both "Dry" (pre-impregnated) and "Wet" lay carbon fiber.
If you would like to know more about paint, CF, or coatings, feel free to PM me your questions.
