JDM Kenstyle Aero *NEW*
09-03-2008, 09:38 AM
#108
I understand the reason but is not making it the best answer? Everything expensive has knockoffs. Typically they are of much less quality. So either you are overcharging for an equal product or the consumer will have to use an inferior product. Could you imagine if Gucci stopped making basically everything because people were knocking it off? How will you make any money by not making kits?
09-03-2008, 01:05 PM
#109
those major designers dont have an issue because there are far more people willing to spend 1k+ on a hand bag. the percentage of people who are willing to spend $1k+ for a part for their car especially a lip or kit is far less. so when sales suffer it doesnt make sense to go through all the trouble to bring them here
09-03-2008, 01:09 PM
#110
They'll make the parts for higher end cars where the customers have the money to pay for the parts and couldn't be bothered with replicas.
Kenstyle would probably be much bigger today if it wasn't for the replicas.
Kenstyle would probably be much bigger today if it wasn't for the replicas.
problem solved....
09-03-2008, 02:39 PM
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Good discussion... and I think the answer has been indirectly stated a few times already.
Look at a good example in the past year: Anceltion. Some overall good success with the Z market and other ideas, but the cost doesn't justify the means, so they go bankrupt. As well, Voltex has ceased production on Evo items, ie. aero bonnet because of the Seibon knock-off.
It takes money/time/research to build new kits. None of which is easily available in a Japanese company, and coupled with the crazy costs to owning a car there, the USA has become the next great hope to make product for. But how do some of you reward innovation and new ideas, you post up on forums, "can't wait for the knock-off". The costs of making an aero kit in Japan with the quality they offer is not cheap, and it's not China (no offense).
The pre-pay costs of merchandising, producing, and warehousing the product also not cheap. So where are they making the money, especially if a majority of their business is wholesale outside of Japan.
So the solution is simple, find a higher niche market, E92, R35, etc. and create an atmosphere where buying cheap parts for your car is sickening. Or much more realistic, stop producing parts unless someone in the US funds the production at their cost.
This last statement is a real possibility, as this is our only option of late. Owners like yourselves are putting their money together and paying for the production of parts from top tuners. (R35-related)
So sorry for so long but more of this has been discussed on our blog last month. Check it out if you want to learn more: http://www.bespokeventures.com/blog/?p=1002
-Jeff
Look at a good example in the past year: Anceltion. Some overall good success with the Z market and other ideas, but the cost doesn't justify the means, so they go bankrupt. As well, Voltex has ceased production on Evo items, ie. aero bonnet because of the Seibon knock-off.
It takes money/time/research to build new kits. None of which is easily available in a Japanese company, and coupled with the crazy costs to owning a car there, the USA has become the next great hope to make product for. But how do some of you reward innovation and new ideas, you post up on forums, "can't wait for the knock-off". The costs of making an aero kit in Japan with the quality they offer is not cheap, and it's not China (no offense).
The pre-pay costs of merchandising, producing, and warehousing the product also not cheap. So where are they making the money, especially if a majority of their business is wholesale outside of Japan.
So the solution is simple, find a higher niche market, E92, R35, etc. and create an atmosphere where buying cheap parts for your car is sickening. Or much more realistic, stop producing parts unless someone in the US funds the production at their cost.
This last statement is a real possibility, as this is our only option of late. Owners like yourselves are putting their money together and paying for the production of parts from top tuners. (R35-related)
So sorry for so long but more of this has been discussed on our blog last month. Check it out if you want to learn more: http://www.bespokeventures.com/blog/?p=1002
-Jeff
09-03-2008, 03:11 PM
#118
how'd you guess? ha
If Jeff (IrishSkyline) has already sorted out the issue so to speak, there isn't much else you can do about the kit being released other than deposits of commitment to getting the parts produced.
If Jeff (IrishSkyline) has already sorted out the issue so to speak, there isn't much else you can do about the kit being released other than deposits of commitment to getting the parts produced.
Last edited by IvoryGT; 09-03-2008 at 03:16 PM.
