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Old 04-18-2021, 11:04 PM
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Upgrade 07-09 Cars to: Newer 2010 - 2015 NAVIGATION Setup

Hey Guys,

Took some time to put this together for anyone interested. As far as I know, no one's really outlined what parts etc. are needed to do an upgrade / conversion on our cars. Having recently performed conversions on my '09 G37 coupe and the wife's 08 EX35, I've now upgraded a total of 5 vehicles. Works out beautifully if you have the right parts (see list below) and some degree of radio installation experience (or access to good installer). Of course you'll need to purchase the 2010-2015 navigation parts, which normally costs less than a few hundred bucks in total.

Also, on the business end, I'm offering Plug-N-Play Conversion Harness Kits for each of the different system variations in our cars (Base Audio, BOSE audio, or NAV w/BOSE Audio), as each one is wired differently to accommodate the 2010+ conversion. The kits include everything needed to make an easy plug-n-play swap, minus the navigation parts themselves. EDIT: The harness kit and info on that can be found in the #2 post below for anyone interested in doing a conversion and making life a Whoooole lot easier...

Otherwise, you'd just need to get your hands on a Factory Wiring Harness from a Donor 2010-2015 G37/Q40/Q60 or EX35/EX37/QX50 With Navigation and then pin-out, cut/strip, solder, and heat shrink the existing connections to the new ones. Also fabricate and run a new shielded cable for the Display, Microphone (base and bose model only), and Rear View Camera, and then purchase & install a GPS antenna, Nissan USB adapter, and perhaps a SiriusXM Antenna + the necessary Adapter. Not fun that way, but certainly doable.

Either way, if you guys have any questions just let me know and I'll do my best to help you out. Check it out:

FEATURES OF 2010-2015 NAVIGATION Systems w/Bose
• Voice control navigation
• Higher-Resolution Display
• Bluetooth Audio Streaming & Phone Calls
• USB port auxiliary input (+RCA inputs on select units)
• Rear view camera input
• Map updates through DVD; No dealer required.
• 9.3GB Music Box hard drive for music storage and playback (2010-12 Nav Unit/Radios only. 2013+ units lost that function due to copyright issues)
• Satellite-radio weather reports and XM NavTraffic with Real-Time Traffic Information (SiriusXM subscription required, sold separately).

PARTS NEEDED FOR THE CONVERSION
(1) Touch Screen Display (2) Control Panel for Display (3) Faceplate / Climate Panel (4) NAV Unit / Radio Receiver

Cars with '07-09 NAV System
only require parts 1 and 4.
Cars with BOSE (Non-nav) Audio System require all four parts.
Cars with Base Audio System require all four nav parts and:
(5)Adding an amplifier to power the car speakers(6)Installing a microphone, for voice communication.

(1) Touch Screen Display
From a 2010-2015 G37, Q40, Q60, EX35, EX37, or QX50 with Nav.
Part No: 28091-1BY3A, 28091-1BY3B, 28091-1BY1E, 28091-1BY1F, or 28091-1BY3C.


(2) Control Panel for Display (not needed for 07-09 NAV cars)
From a 2008-2015 G37, Q40, Q60, or EX35 with Nav.
Part No: 28395-1UF1A, 28395-1UF2A, 28395-JK605, 28395-JK65B, or 28395-JK66B.


(3) Faceplate / Climate Panel (optional for 07-09 NAV cars, the existing faceplate can be reused)
From a 2010-2015 G37, Q40, or Q60 with Nav.
Part No: 25391-1UF3A.
or
From a 2008-2009 G37 with NAV. (These faceplates have a hard drive slot on them)
Part No: 25391-JK64B or 25391-JK65B


(4) NAV Unit / Radio Receiver
From a 2010-2015 G37, Q40, or Q60 with Nav.
Part No: 25915-1JA0B, 25915-1JA1E, 25915-1JA2B, 25915-3LZ1A, or 25915-3LZ1C
(Note – these nav units don't support RCA inputs; USB input only).
or
From a 2010 FX35, FX50, or EX35 with Nav.
Part No: 25915-ZX74A or 25915-JJ52C
(Note – these nav units support both RCA + USB inputs, however they may require dealer reprogramming to activate the rear camera, since those vehicles have around-view monitoring).


(5) Amplifier Install - Base Audio System Cars Only
The 2010+ NAV Unit/Radio does not have a built-in amp like the Base audio radio unit, so an external amp needs to be installed to power the car speakers. You will need:
· 4+ Channel Amplifier and Installation Kit to install the power, ground, and remote turn-on wire the amp needs.
· 4+ Channel Line Output Converter (LOC), if the intended amp is not designed to accept differential-balanced signals (the type of low-level signals that come from the NAV/BOSE Radio Units). Check your amp's specifications.

Installation would be as follows:
- If your intended amp has differential-balanced inputs (like most JL Audio amps and the factory BOSE amp for example):
Connect the NAV Unit/Radio (sound signal output wires) --> AMP --> Speakers (sound signal wires on the dashboard side of the Harness Adapter).
Or:
- If your intended amp does not have differential-balanced inputs (the majority of aftermarket amps):
Connect the NAV Unit/Radio (sound signal output wires) --> LOC --> AMP --> Speakers (sound signal wires on the dashboard side of the Harness Adapter).

(6) Microphone, for voice - Base Audio System Cars Only
These cars don't have microphone, and so should install one.
From a 2008-2015 G37, Q40, or Q60. Part No: 28336-JK60A, 28336-1VZ0A, or 28336-1VZ0B.


Optional Parts to Consider Installing
• Rear View Camera, if needed / desired.
• USB Flush Mount/Panel Mount Extension Cable, for mounting the USB port in car.
• SiriusXM Satellite Antenna, for keeping/adding satellite radio (not needed for cars with Nav already)


- Post Updated 1/16/2022

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Regarding the harness kits I'm offering,

I'm happy to bring to you our Plug-N-Play Navigation Conversion Harness Kits, under my company OWC Upgrades.
These kits will allow you to Upgrade ANY 2007-08 G35 Sedan or 2008-09 G37 Coupe / Sedan, to a Newer 2010+ NAVIGATION System w/BOSE. Being truly plug-n-play, there's no need to cut into the factory wiring at all. Everything stays 100% intact!

All you need are the navigation parts themselves, as outlined post #1 above.

Each Harness Kit is Made-to-Order for Your Current Car System (be it a Base system, BOSE system, or NAV w/BOSE system) and Includes:
- All necessary wiring to interface with the factory connections
- GPS Antenna, 16ft Cable (Base and Bose non-nav systems only)
- USB Input Adapter, 3.25ft Cable
- Microphone Connection, 10ft Cable (Base and Bose non-nav systems only)
- Rear Camera Input Connection, 16ft Cable
- Optional; SiriusXM Antenna, 23ft Cable
- Connection & Startup Instructions.

Prices for Each Kit, depending on your car system are as follows (plus $10 Shipping):
- Base Audio System, $365
- Base Audio System + SiriusXM Antenna & adapter, $390
- BOSE Audio System, $385
- BOSE Audio System + SiriusXM Antenna & adapter, $410 (as shown below)
- NAV w/Bose Audio System, $375

PM me (Chris / OWC Upgrades) if interested or you have any questions feel free to drop a line below.
Or if you'd prefer purchasing thru ebay (100% rating), just do a search for G35 / G37 Navigation Harness Adapter Kit. Just be aware that prices are a little higher due to ebay fees.

PHOTOS:

(BOSE Audio System + SiriusXM Antenna shown here)


Connection Example



Shielded Microphone Cable, GPS Antenna, and USB Cable Adapter



Main Conversion Harness for the 2010+ Navigation Setup



Shielded Rear View Camera Cable. Made to accommodate either a factory camera or aftermarket camera.



SiriusXM Antenna + Adapter



One more of the Main Harness



Thanks for looking!

Chris,
OWC Upgrades

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Old 04-25-2021, 01:05 AM
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Wow, this is awesome. Very well done. Hope to see some members try this out.
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Thanks a lot!. New lower prices on the harness kits.
Also, we're currently offering COMPLETE Navigation Conversion Assemblies (that include very good-excellent condition used parts and the appropriate harness kit) go from $665 - $720, plus $25 shipping.

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Hello guys, I have an 08 G37 with bose and navi, and I wanted to do the upgrade to the 2010 also bose navi, mainly for the full bluetooth function. Any how, Im wondering if I can get this done using my factory 08 wire harnesses just with some cutting splicing, or if theres no way to get around it without getting the harness connectors from the 2010 system. I see it mentioned here that you need the new systems wire harness, but somewhere else I had read that if your doing the same BoseNav to BoseNav all that was needed was some rewiring of the current harness. Are there maybe some harness connectors that I can get away without needing from the newer system? Thanks in advance for any help!
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Even if you went the cut/splice route, the 2010+ system uses a couple of different connectors that the pre-2010's just do not have. All you need- in addition to the hardware- are the missing connectors, the GVIF cable, the USB cable and port (if you want USB) functionality, and a ton of patience. That, or a few hundred quid for the conversion kit advertised above.

Quite honestly, this whole swap, just to add Bluetooth, isn't worth the cost or effort. But, your car and your wallet 😁

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This Kit looks fantastic!

Im currently in the search of those style connectors for my project. The ones I need is for the cluster which is the same as one of those in the audio area.
Trying to find the ones for the pedals was a nightmare and these I haven't had much luck.
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Originally Posted by BULL
Im currently in the search of those style connectors for my project.
What connectors do you need? I have a drawer full of odds and ends connectors. If I have them they are yours... LMK
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Some of them can be ordered from mouser or digikey. if you check the FSM they show connector type.
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Originally Posted by ILM-NC G37S
What connectors do you need? I have a drawer full of odds and ends connectors. If I have them they are yours... LMK
Originally Posted by iCrap
Some of them can be ordered from mouser or digikey. if you check the FSM they show connector type.
I need to find out their names to order in bulk.



E32 type is also found in the Navi section




There's about 20 plugs that I need to collect, at the moment I have to recycle but would like to offer new as well.
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Well for example here are the navi screen connectors, They should all the in the same series

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/...QzNUSGxqIn0%3D
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/...QzNUSGxqIn0%3D
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Originally Posted by iCrap
Well for example here are the navi screen connectors, They should all the in the same series

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/...QzNUSGxqIn0%3D
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/...QzNUSGxqIn0%3D

Fantastic find. Going to have to do some serious digging to see I can find all the connectors through digikey. Thank you.
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Originally Posted by ILM-NC G37S
Quite honestly, this whole swap, just to add Bluetooth, isn't worth the cost or effort. But, your car and your wallet 😁
Lol. Well to be more specific bluetooth with full the ability to navigate through the folders of songs without having to use my phone is my goal. All the stuff like navigation, Xm, aren't as important to me.
It sucks for me having to deal with either an old ipod, cds, or the hard drive for music.
I was hoping I could get the functionality of the 2010 without spending over $300. I've got $150 invested in hardware so far, so not sure how likely this is to work out at the costs I had in mind.

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Originally Posted by jayp81
I was hoping I could get the functionality of the 2010 without spending over $300. I've got $150 invested in hardware so far, so not sure how likely this is to work out at the costs I had in mind.
Don't get me wrong, when I did the swap all I wanted was USB and, 6 years or so later, I have ZERO regrets.

If you already have the hardware, then the rest is relatively easy, so don't stop now! The wiring for 2010+ is actually simpler and less complicated than the pre-2010 units. It will be a tedious process, and it will test your patience, but if I can do it- and I have absolutely NO patience to begin with- you'll get it done.

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Hi Jay,

Thanks for reaching out. I just replied to your PM.
Separate of that, as ILM mentioned and I wrote above, you can certainly do the nav upgrade without the harness if you're trying to save a few bucks and your willing to find and splice all the connectors & wires together. I believe others here have wrote a bit of guide on doing it that way, so you may want to check that out.


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