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Old 11-24-2008, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bucknasty
I agree having the arrows is a must now its one of those things that you cant go without once you have it. I was unaware of the software updates thought thats pretty cool, makes me like having my V1 even more. The V1 has paid for it self numerous times already as soon as i get an alert i check my speed and put it in high gear to keep the decibel level down. I would definitely recommend a V1 to anyone excellent product, great quality even the suction cups are better.
I fail to see how arrows make a difference, when you alarm goes off.. you slow down, it doesn't matter whether it's infront or behind you. I'm open minded though maybe you can enlighten me to where this has any real value beyond being neat and gymicy. Now a GPS built in to your detector opens up a whole range of additional capabilities including enhanced blocking and custom alerting via a database of known speed hostile locations. That would seem to me to be a requirement for anything promising modern state of the art road protection. V1 can add this though through a Cheetah GPS Mirror.
Old 11-24-2008, 02:42 PM
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GPS = lame implementation of technology for radars. Doesnt offer anything real or tangible. Lets say it always goes off at a particular location, so after x times the radar mutes the alert. A cop decides to sit there, guess what? your screwed. How about know hostile locations? Great, a false alarm everytime u go by one.

Arrows = Allows you better pinpoint where the cop is. Ultimately the radar detector is just a tool, you still need to know how to use it. For me, I want to know where the radar is coming from and how strong it is. This gives me the most information about where the cop is located.

I can't explain how obvious it is to me that the Arrows are the most usefull feature of any radar detector I have owned. I have had 4 different brands, all top of the line, and nothing touches the V1. If you havent tried one your missing out.
Old 11-24-2008, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BocaCoupe
GPS = lame implementation of technology for radars. Doesnt offer anything real or tangible. Lets say it always goes off at a particular location, so after x times the radar mutes the alert. A cop decides to sit there, guess what? your screwed. How about know hostile locations? Great, a false alarm everytime u go by one.

Arrows = Allows you better pinpoint where the cop is. Ultimately the radar detector is just a tool, you still need to know how to use it. For me, I want to know where the radar is coming from and how strong it is. This gives me the most information about where the cop is located.

I can't explain how obvious it is to me that the Arrows are the most usefull feature of any radar detector I have owned. I have had 4 different brands, all top of the line, and nothing touches the V1. If you havent tried one your missing out.
The V1 also counts how many bogeys(alerts) are occurring at one time "What the Bogey Counter does for you
Every alert, until you’ve positively identified the source,
is an unknown, a bogey. But an alert may consist of more
than one bogey. There could be many. Let’s say you drive
by a burglar alarm on the way to work every day that
causes an alert. Then one day you pick up an additional
bogey. This new bogey could be radar hiding under cover
of the burglar alarm, picking off the unwary. You must
assume each alert is radar until you’ve identified the bogey."-V1 website
So in a way if you know how to use your radar detection tool properly it already has a similar feature to the GPS as RedG37SNC stated would be a better feature to have. so in my opinion the V1 is on top again. But i am not trying hype up the V1 it truely is an excellent product and until you have one with the arrows and the bogey counter and the two separate front and rear radar and laser antennas you are really missing out. Read the V1 website everything is explained in perfect detail.
Old 11-24-2008, 04:01 PM
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The Valentine One is the best radar/laser detector.

http://valentine1.com/

http://guysoflidar.com/august-2007/r...ctor-test.html


The Laser Interceptor is the best laser jammer.

http://www.laser-interceptorusa.com/

http://guysoflidar.com/july-2008/laser-jammer-test.html

Old 11-24-2008, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BocaCoupe
GPS = lame implementation of technology for radars. Doesn't offer anything real or tangible. Lets say it always goes off at a particular location, so after x times the radar mutes the alert. A cop decides to sit there, guess what? your screwed. How about know hostile locations? Great, a false alarm everytime u go by one.

Arrows = Allows you better pinpoint where the cop is. Ultimately the radar detector is just a tool, you still need to know how to use it. For me, I want to know where the radar is coming from and how strong it is. This gives me the most information about where the cop is located.
Escort's GPS blocking takes this into account, when you block a radar source you block it not only by location, but by frequency too. If a new radar source is in the blocked location and the same band, it will not have the same frequency and therefore not be blocked. You are simply WRONG about GPS and Radar not being the MOST useful addition to modern Radar detectors.

I can see knowing whether the radar is in front or behind as being useful and helpful for pinpointing the LEO but in the end it will have no real impact on your reaction to the alert.. you will slow down to the speed limit which is the exact same thing a radar user without arrows will do. Usually finding the LEO is not hard. I'd say the arrows are nice but given the choice I wouldn't trade for the GPS. Arrows won't protect you from Speed cams, Red lights and speed traps, the GPS integration can!

As far as sensitivity tests Valentine is great, but not significantly better then similarly priced GPS radar detectors available and when you consider they cover threats the V1 doesn't even know about ... no competition.

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Old 11-24-2008, 05:15 PM
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Although I don't have one, I agree that Valentine is the best radar detector hands down. It doesnt reach any farthur though it does tell you where it is coming from.

However, if you don't have the money for a valentine, an Escort or Beltronics are just as good but without the arrows. I know that the software in my RX65 can be updated also.

I don't know how some of you drive without a radar detector. To me it is second nature. If I don't have one in my car, I flip out and dont feel secure. It is like the need to put your seat belt on or OCD, whichever you prefer. Since I have had one for most of my driving life, I don't even look at it anymore. I just listen to the beeps and I know how close the cop is and when I need to slow down.

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Old 11-24-2008, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RedG37SNC
Escort's GPS blocking takes this into account, when you block a radar source you block it not only by location, but by frequency too. If a new radar source is in the blocked location and the same band, it will not have the same frequency and therefore not be blocked. You are simply WRONG about GPS and Radar not being the MOST useful implementation to a Radar detector.

I can see knowing whether the radar is in front or behind as being useful and helpful for pinpointing the LEO but in the end it will have no real impact on your reaction to the alert.. you will slow down to the speed limit which is the exact same thing a radar user without arrows will do. Usually finding the LEO is not hard. I'd say the arrows are nice but given the choice I wouldn't trade for the GPS. Arrows won't protect you from Speed cams, Red lights and speed traps, the GPS integration can!

As far as sensitivity tests Valentine is great, but not significantly better then similarly priced GPS radar detectors available and when you consider they cover alerts the V1 doesn't even know about ... no competition.
Fancy abbreviations aside, speed cams run on what? Radar.
Red lights are what? Red lights.
Speed traps use what? radar.
Old 11-24-2008, 05:26 PM
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IMO, the V1 is outdated and over-rated. There are many other detectors on the market that offer just as great if not better warning coverages. I agree, GPS is useless and I would stay away from using it except under certain conditions but I wouldn't go disabling all false alarms. Does it really matter WHERE the cop is? 9/10 there is only one direction he can be in. If it's a weak alert then who really cares where it is coming from, you're likely not approaching it.
Old 11-24-2008, 05:27 PM
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I think GPS is a useless gimick. Just like the Escort Solo. It is all great until your battery dies and you don't even know it until you get pulled over by a popo.
Old 11-24-2008, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BocaCoupe
Fancy abbreviations aside, speed cams run on what? Radar.
Red lights are what? Red lights.
Speed traps use what? radar.
These aren't the horizontal radar or laser in some cases from a LEO, the spray is to shallow to be detected by radar detectors until it's too late which is why they developed GPS mapping. It works fellas, the maps are updated monthly, I can't understand how you can't grasp the value of knowing where threats you can't detect by any other means are located.

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Old 11-24-2008, 05:58 PM
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I think the arrows are useful. Sure, you'll slow down with any alarm. However, if you know that the source is ahead of you, you are likely to procede with more caution as you're approaching the possible cop. If the signal is weaker and behind you and you don't see a cop in your mirror, you can probably feel a little safer and maybe not slow down as much. This certainly isn't 100%, but the theory is there. Also I think the bogey counter is useful. Basically, the more information you have, the better decisions you can make about how to respond. Its like anything in life. I'd believe that GPS could be useful as would the frequency blocking for all of the traffic cam/radar that I'm now running into. They are almost to the point that I've stopped paying attention to my detector.
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Originally Posted by mygyott37
HELP need one ****in 2 many cops in SoCal being ****s and giving me exhaust mod tickets 5 so FAR!!!

IP G37 .... custom grill.... powder coated rims.... no mufflers =P
BTW, no wonder you're getting tickets. Its like driving next to a Harley with loud pipes. I get all pissed off everytime I get near one.
Old 11-24-2008, 08:01 PM
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At least loud pipes on a bike make sense... better to be heard then road turd...lol.
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escort 8500
escort 9500
valentine 1

only 3 detectors i would recommend.
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Originally Posted by RedG37SNC
At least loud pipes on a bike make sense... better to be heard then road turd...lol.
So true! It is so much easier to hear them than see them.


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