Yet another Sedan vs. Coupe - @ TRACK - - Page 2

4DOORFUN · 11-04-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

Part numbers are different for the coupe and sedan. You tell me

The coupe does have a noticeably harsher ride.

I'm not trying to debate. I really didn't know the suspension was different. Maybe the coupe has slightly firmer springs because it's heavier?

The ride could also be harsher on the coupe because it has 19" wheels.

Mike · 11-04-2009, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 4DOORFUN

I'm not trying to debate. I really didn't know the suspension was different. Maybe the coupe has slightly firmer springs because it's heavier?

The ride could also be harsher on the coupe because it has 19" wheels.

A sport sedan's ride (subjectively) is close to that of a non-sport coupe. A sport coupe, even with 18's, rides noticeably harsher than a non-sport coupe. I'm not talking about feeling things on the road; it's more about how they are absorbed. The spring rate (and valving) has to be higher.

This is in my experience.

Remember, the sedan is targeted at a different market from the coupe. However, the coupe actually has an older average purchase age

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Mike P · 11-04-2009, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

A sport sedan's ride (subjectively) is close to that of a non-sport coupe. A sport coupe, even with 18's, rides noticeably harsher than a non-sport coupe. I'm not talking about feeling things on the road; it's more about how they are absorbed. The spring rate (and valving) has to be higher.

This is in my experience.

Remember, the sedan is targeted at a different market from the coupe. However, the coupe actually has an older average purchase age

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The coupe is heavy because of the extra reinforcements that the doors need to meet crash guidelines. The suspension is different. i have a non-sport coupe and it rides firmer than my sport sedan, both are AWD.

The only car you buy for the track time is something exotic. Although these cars run well, I would not say they are exotic. Poeple buy 4-doors or 2-doors based on syling and preference not track time or wieght. If you bought this car for the track skils, then I think you bought the wrong car.

Mike · 11-04-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike P

The coupe is heavy because of the extra reinforcements that the doors need to meet crash guidelines. The suspension is different. i have a non-sport coupe and it rides firmer than my sport sedan, both are AWD.

The only car you buy for the track time is something exotic. Although these cars run well, I would not say they are exotic. Poeple buy 4-doors or 2-doors based on syling and preference not track time or wieght. If you bought this car for the track skils, then I think you bought the wrong car.

What an understatement.

although exotics are rare on the track, and the vast majority that do show up need a driver mod badly.

4DOORFUN · 11-04-2009, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike P

The suspension is different. i have a non-sport coupe and it rides firmer than my sport sedan, both are AWD.

Sorry, but if you have an AWD sedan with sport package, you don't have the sport suspension.

I'm nearly 100% sure the RWD Sedans (6MT or Journey w/sport) and RWD Coupes (6MT or Journey w/sport) come with the same suspension.

Either car in AWD form does not have the sport suspension, quicker steering ratio, or larger brakes.

My source is Infinitihelp.com. Also, if the RWD cars are nearly the same weight why would Infiniti design two different sport suspensions? That would lead to extra costs.

Alex57r · 11-04-2009, 01:04 PM

That's proly casue the coupe is more expensive

Mike · 11-05-2009, 12:09 AM

^^ Correct.

AWD's get a "sport appearance" package. There is a reason the sport package on AWD cars is so cheap

uwnav · 11-05-2009, 03:42 PM

consider my feathers ruffled.
I'm in inclined to agree with you.. But i'm still getting the sedan. So can we get a confirmation that all three: "sport suspension, quicker steering ratio, or larger brakes" for the AWDs are not there?

The G · 11-05-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by uwnav

consider my feathers ruffled.
I'm in inclined to agree with you.. But i'm still getting the sedan. So can we get a confirmation that all three: "sport suspension, quicker steering ratio, or larger brakes" for the AWDs are not there?

Correct.

Mike · 11-06-2009, 02:43 PM

The sedan is about 200 lbs lighter across the board given equal options.

BlueMalibu, are you in So-Cal?

ozzypriest · 11-06-2009, 05:03 PM

Does anyone have any track times for the sedan vs. coupe to reference? The lowest i've seen is an MT test of the Journey with a sport package, with a 0-60 @ 5.0 and a 1/4 @ 13.5

StopTheExcuses · 11-06-2009, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ozzypriest

Does anyone have any track times for the sedan vs. coupe to reference? The lowest i've seen is an MT test of the Journey with a sport package, with a 0-60 @ 5.0 and a 1/4 @ 13.5

I'm going to the track shortly, and I will keep everybody updated on what I run. Fwiw, I have an 09 6mt Sedan with Stillen Exhaust and Injen CAI. Just under 10k on the engine.

ozzypriest · 11-07-2009, 12:34 AM

subscribing...really want to see StopTheExcuses's times...

ultraman · 11-12-2009, 12:49 PM

get a 370Z if you really want a best track time

B L U E S L A T E · 11-16-2009, 02:36 AM

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get a 370Z if you really want a best track time

I'd say go with a S2000... lol

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11-05-2009, 12:09 AM	#7
Mike Registered User Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,301	^^ Correct. AWD's get a "sport appearance" package. There is a reason the sport package on AWD cars is so cheap

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uwnav Registered User Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 14	consider my feathers ruffled. I'm in inclined to agree with you.. But i'm still getting the sedan. So can we get a confirmation that all three: "sport suspension, quicker steering ratio, or larger brakes" for the AWDs are not there?

11-06-2009, 02:43 PM	#10
Mike Registered User Trader Score: (0) Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,301	The sedan is about 200 lbs lighter across the board given equal options. BlueMalibu, are you in So-Cal?